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unison on individual oscillators
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| Seven Doxian |
| Other than sylenth are there other synths with this feature ? |
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| Seven Doxian |
| So i guess that means no.....surprised other developers havent tried this after the success of lennard digital. |
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| cryophonik |
| Zebra, Spire, Omnisphere, Absynth come to mind and all have per-osc detune. I'm guessing that there are other semi-modulars that have it (e.g., Synthmaster, Reaktor?) as well. If you haven't seen Spire's implementation of unison, you need to check it out. |
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| inversoundzzz |
First let me say, I've never tried out a synth with this feature you talk of....but....
My take is that you only have x amount of voices on your synth any way. I mean you only have 32 voices total on most synths. some only have 16, 20, 24, basically you only have a certain amount of headroom and frequency space available until you start juyst getting interference distortion and aliasing. Every time you increase the unison, you decrease the available "space" that a given patch uses. Any patch that has too many stereo detuned voices for every "voice" in a harmonic series....will start to sound flat and monophonic and it will lose all the phasing that you are trying to achieve.
my two cents. |
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| cryophonik |
| That's a valid point, inversoundzzz, but one of the main advantages of per-osc unison is almost the converse of your point. Sometimes, you don't want all voices detuned and spread, especially not in the lower frequencies. Having the ability to detune oscillators individually gives you more flexibility to dial in less unison than you'd get from a global unison, and it allows you to e.g., apply unison to oscillators pithed higher, and not apply it to those pitched down an octave or two (e.g., subosc). |
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| inversoundzzz |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
That's a valid point, inversoundzzz, but one of the main advantages of per-osc unison is almost the converse of your point. Sometimes, you don't want all voices detuned and spread, especially not in the lower frequencies. Having the ability to detune oscillators individually gives you more flexibility to dial in less unison than you'd get from a global unison, and it allows you to e.g., apply unison to oscillators pithed higher, and not apply it to those pitched down an octave or two (e.g., subosc). |
definitely, yea I didn't think of that. But I guess I just havent been that exact or detailed in my patch creations to need that much intricacy. I havent experimented much with ummm, having different pitched octaves on the same synth. I feel like you are losing the UMPPH of the synth when you split up the workload that way......but I know that alot house music has that root note octave then a 19 semitone combo and stuff, which gives it that specific tone.
you can call me Sean brother. thats my name.:) |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| Harmor has the mist detailed implementation of unison. |
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| Deillon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Harmor has the mist detailed implementation of unison. |
But this thing is only 1 osc and 1 sub osc right?
edit: im stupid, was thinking of harmless |
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| Looney4Clooney |
4 osc
But given the additive nature of it, lots of oscillators is not really needed as you can pretty much draw any waveform you want. |
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| Seven Doxian |
| I didnt realize that many synths had that feature available....im gonna buy omnisphere so that should do the trick....even though its a pig i hear....thanx again boys . |
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| Seven Doxian |
| Since this thread i started just doin the ol deamau5 manual unison thing and honestly i like it more....but probably not the best thing for cpu hungry vst's....but i find its a bigger sound ....although i have yet to try spire....harmor sounds great (and i own harmless)....but ive never been one to enjoy drawing waveforms :-( |
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| meriter |
| the unison in albino 3 is out of this world |
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