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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
I know there's a whole bunch of people on here with science doctorates and the like. Whaddya all make of the MH 370 data that got released. I've read so many conflicting views, including these ones (my head hurts).
I think they could be hiding something (e.g. not revealing fullc argo manifest), but then again, it's just an MH flight, what would they have to hide? They can find a frickin' tiny vessel in the mid-Atlantic but not a 777 ??? Can a plane really submerge without leaving debris?
| quote: | I think they should have released this information a long time ago. Just finding the base frequency being used has not been easy to find online. Others could have been crunching the numbers independently. It is a tricky calculation especially if the pilot was attempting to allude radar including engine pings to Inmarsat satellite as there were only limited number of transmissions.
Initially doppler shift indicates the plane was heading towards the satellite's location as doppler shift was declining. Then doppler started getting higher suggesting the plane was further away from the satellite yet still heading towards it (since doppler shift was still positive). Guess this explains the two potential archs that Inmarsat initially determined.
However, since there was only 1 data point per hour, the pilot could have manipulating the aircraft speed / direction temporarily to make it very difficult to use doppler shift to determine location by itself. For example, the pilot could have flown 55 minutes in a particular direction at a particular speed, only to turn around and headed in the opposite direction at the time of the ping transmission. Doing this at every ping transmission, and the doppler shift would be virtually useless in determining the absolute position of the aircraft. . |
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| quote: | | The first thing that struck my attention in this 47 page report are the times logged before take off (all in UTC): approx. 16:00 hours, post take off: approx. 16:41 hours (seems about right) and then last comm: 17:07 hours and last partial comm: 18:03 hours. So by the time the plane left the runway and took off until the time the last communication was approx. 26 minutes. and the last partial would be approx another hour added on... This flight supposedly went on until the aircraft ran out of gas which was supposed to be a much longer time 6-7 hours approx., so if we only have data for this short amount of time, how does that put the aircraft so far south next to Perth, Australia? 26 minutes would put it closer to Vietnam on its original course. Another hour would put it at a turn around back to Malaysia, but that is about it. Where is the data for the next 5 hours?? That data is not published here |
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| quote: | | I had a friend that worked at NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command). Their job was/is to track ALL aircraft worldwide and also in space 24/7. If anyone knows where this aircraft is it is NORAD. They log all that information every day continuously. Being that this would be military information of US/Canada, it would not be let out to the public unless authorized. They would know exactly where this aircraft flight ended. The Inmarsat data is from a public company just trying to do the right thing, whet ever that may be. Lets just say that there are people that know exactly where this aircraft is but that data cannot be released due to it's military classification and also cannot be shared or used. Where the aircraft is is not the mystery, but rather who holds the key to the data and why civilian aircraft incident data cannot be released if it has nothing to do with the military. |
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| quote: | | Is there a way to download this? |
| quote: | | if you ask how to download, then I doubt you even have the ability to read that. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
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| Joss Weatherby |
Where are you getting these quotes?
Also NORAD doesn't have radar data for the entire globe, just the North American area. NORAD does get satellite ping data from onboard devices on aircraft, but thats not super accurate. |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Where are you getting these quotes?
Also NORAD doesn't have radar data for the entire globe, just the North American area. NORAD does get satellite ping data from onboard devices on aircraft, but thats not super accurate. |
CNN! Which is a goldmine for trolling. |
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| FuzzQi |
| Yes, maybe TA will solve the mystery |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
Yes, maybe TA will solve the mystery |
I will.
This was the world's safest airplane. Nothing, absolutely nothing, could make it crash. It was uncrashable. Hubris took over, and the pilots became distracted. Then, the unavoidable happened...
... flight MH 370 hit an iceberg. |
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| FuzzQi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I will.
This was the world's safest airplane. Nothing, absolutely nothing, could make it crash. It was uncrashable. Hubris took over, and the pilots became distracted. Then, the unavoidable happened...
... flight MH 370 hit an iceberg. |
And they didn't have enough lifeboats |
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