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is it just me, or is this type of acting just not seen in other professional sports?
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| Looney4Clooney |
i think you have to look at the big picture. Do other sports cheat or bend the rules to shift the advantage to their side. Well right off the bat, steroids would make football and basball part of the group. So ya, you need to understand why they do it , and then translate the why and i thin kyou will find every sport does it.
Football / soccer gives the referees alot of power and i'm sure with modern tools , alot of this could be eliminated. Offside calls should almost be automatic. You shouldn't need a referee but maybe that is all part of the game. |
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| Paradox Lost |
Because soccer is a limited-contact sport, and players often exaggerate or outright feign contact-injury in order to stick an opposing player with a game violation.
Contrast this with a collission-sport like football, where there's usually no need to fake injury at the hands of a charging, 6'2", 250 pound linebacker (and no purpose, as tackles are permitted, and injuries an accepted occupational hazard). |
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| Sushipunk |
| Plenty of it in basketball these days, too. |
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| r5a |
sick.
wish i could land million dollar gigs by being a professional feign artist!
the out of here it's part of the game. its lame as . needs to be handled quickly before it gets out of hand. they need to allow the refs on the field to use replay for soccer. basketball they're pretty hard on it no?
i don't see it happening very often in football but who knows. |
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| Lews |
| I don't get the point of a thread like this. We all know that football players pull this kind of , and we all hate it. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Offside calls should almost be automatic. You shouldn't need a referee but maybe that is all part of the game. |
Offside has nothing to do with diving, the decision is given by a linesman not a referee, and the rule is so complex these days with active/inactive and phase one and phase two of play, that to call it an "automatic" decision leads me to conclude you don't know what you're talking about. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Which are referees or I suppose FIFA calls assistants referees. The point is that the referee has final say. Errors happen because it is hard to cover so much surface.
It was a parallel between how just like offsides, which could be rendered pretty much flawless calls evey time, technology could also help with these sorts of issues. A referee or 3 can't really see everything.
Sorry I wasn't more clear. I also don't really keep up so maybe things have changed. But the role of the referee always seemed somewhat sacred and I didn't really think they would change that aspect unless it is one of those calls were they have big pow wow like with France years ago. |
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| knowhope |
| You give too much . Let it go. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Which are referees or I suppose FIFA calls assistants referees. The point is that the referee has final say. Errors happen because it is hard to cover so much surface.
It was a parallel between how just like offsides, which could be rendered pretty much flawless calls evey time, technology could also help with these sorts of issues. A referee or 3 can't really see everything. |
Technology could help with a lot of the more blatant dives, but there will always be points of debate when there's contact - was there sufficient contact, was there an overreaction to provoke a refereeing decision, etc. I've seen players go down very easily and everyone in the pub screamed "Get up you cheat!" only for the player to be carried off the pitch with a broken metatarsal, so even slow-motion replays can't always tell the full story. And there's always a debate about balance, about speed, about whether contact denied a goalscoring chance and if the player had stayed on their feet in an honest manner would they have been unfairly denied, etc.
These decisions are often debated by a panel of ex-players and pundits after the match and four people in a studio can't reach a unanimous decision. The fear is introducing that kind of debate into a live match. The referee is fallible and we all understand that, but if the guy analysing the replay makes a mistake, whispers of unfairness, bribery and so on will inevitably rear their head even if the poor bastard is just looking at quite an inconclusive piece of footage.
Anyway, it feels like diving has declined a bit in recent years. It hit a peak around the 2006 World Cup when it was terrible, and now it's fallen off slightly, although it is more acceptable in some football cultures than others and the World Cup always brings it out. It only seems to be a big issue once every four years when American bros take to the Internet and start complaining about " soccer" because they've been unavoidably reminded that their sports are small fry. |
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