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Anyone ever quit a job because of management?
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| Spacey Orange |
| What was it about the management that compelled you to quit? |
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| Trance-M |
Not yet, but it sucks seeing non-technical people running (or ruining) a technical company without knowing what they are talking about.
Unfortunately that's the case in many companies as most engineers give answers to questions based on facts. That's 99 of 100 times not what management wants to hear, which is why there aren't enough technical people at the top. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| I wouldn't say that I left my former employer exclusively due to the management; however, it was a very large (I'd go so far as to say primary) factor. Ultimately, I found that my director's style of management was not only inconsistent with mine but largely contradictory. While we got along fine on a personal level we had a great deal of difficulty working as an effective team; subsequently, I had to put an inordinate amount of time and energy into finding ways to bridge the gaps between how I wanted my team to run and how he wanted the division to run. The end result of our differences was that I could not run my team as effectively as I wanted. It became clear that one of us would need to go for the benefit of both... it didn't look like he was going to be the one to move so I decided I needed to find other opportunities. |
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| Jon_Snow |
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| OrangestO |
I quit my job last week because of management.
Here's what I was going to post about the company on Glassdoor, but I decided to just email the CEO instead.
| quote: | Company built on empty promises.
Let me preface this by writing I loved working at XXXXX once upon a time ago. I felt there was a purpose for my hard work. I thought it mattered in the grand scheme of things. I believed in my CEO’s vision. The keyword there: thought. My year and a half at XXXXX has been filled with empty promises. The CEO promised ESOP by mid 2014; it never happened. I was offered a promotion; it never happened. I was offered a new position where my skills would be better utilized; it never happened. Hell, the CEO ran a contest and announced the winners would be taken to Bern’s Steakhouse; needless to say, I won and – you guessed it – it never happened. The last four months have been a living hell for me professionally. It’s because of this so-called great company to work for. If you want your hard work and talent to go unnoticed, apply for a position here. If you want to constantly feel like an outsider because there’s a best friends club at the top of the food chain, apply for a position here. If you’re a male and don’t want to step up the ladder professionally, apply for a position here. Once upon a time ago, this company had a vision and had the people to get it there. Well, had. Now it’s just there. If you want to earn a measly paycheck creating mediocre content, look no further. At the end of the day, working at XXXXX is just a job – nothing more, nothing less. The CEO might have you think you’ve just stumbled upon the greatest opportunity – actually, never mind. That was the old CEO. He was passionate; he had company meetings in which he inspired people; he cared about the people who worked for him. That was before the company chose to take the path to the left instead of choosing the right direction. As hard as it was to cut ties with this company and the group of people I loved working with, I’m happy I finally did. My career and future depended on it.
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Tl;dr version. The CEO made some impulsive decisions hoping he could profit more and faster. He hired two shady yuppies who had no part in helping grow the company from its roots. The COO (he knew his and was cool as ) knew it was a bad move and resigned. The company hasn't been the same since. Morale has flatlined. The company now cares about earning profits instead of refining its product beforehand. Oh well. |
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| Spacey Orange |
Orangesto, and anyone else willing to weigh in, i have a question:
Did you try to resolve any issues beforehand? |
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| Jon_Snow |
| Your letter could use some editing. If you were going for whiny, sour grapes, you nailed it. The CEO probably hit the delete key after the second sentence. Waste of time complaining to someone who you think doesn't care. IMHOP exit interviews are the proper place to give constructive feedback. Btw, you weren't offered a promotion, you were promised a promotion. |
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| djshire |
I had two jobs at a mall. My main was at Glow Golf, glow-in-the-dark mini golf. I spent most days not doing much, since the weekdays for that mall were dead. I could play whatever music I wanted, as long as it couldn't/didn't offend anyone. So I played house and trance. For getting minimum wage, I was doing way better than other people at other minimum wage jobs.
My secondary was at Taco Bell in the food court. I took that job because I really needed the money to fix my car, a 2nd gen Dodge Neon, which was a piece of that was falling apart. I only needed to do that job long enough til I got an inheritance (fathers estate, he died of brain cancer years before) so I could just get a new(er) car. I did keep the option open to stay at that job if it wasn't horrible, because extra income would be nice, even with what I was getting from inheritance (which was finite).
I quit that job two weeks, to the day, from when I got that inheritance. I worked it for a little over 8 months. It was ty in the way that all food related jobs can be, but I was good at it. People even asked if I had worked for Taco Bell before, I was that good. No, it was the store manager, who was a horrible c*nt of a woman. Beyond being a total bitch, she was not very understanding. See, if I didn't eat with certain frequency, my blood sugar would crash. Now, at Glow Golf this wasn't ever really a problem, since I was sitting around doing nothing most of the time. Even standing, helping customers, that was ok, because it was never fast-paced. But at Taco Bell, it was. So when I'd ask for a break to get food because I ing needed to, she would refuse. It would require several tries to get a break, and even then, it was only given begrudgingly. In the time I worked there, 6 people quit because of that manager.
Several months after I quit, she was fired for not just employee turnover being quite high (even for a place like Taco Bell), but also for being intoxicated on the job (which made sense in retrospect). I later found out that she was an alcoholic. |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Spacey Orange |
Yup. He made (more) promises and never followed through with them.
In the end, the company went in one direction and I had to move in another if I care about my career in content.
A lot of people working there feel the same. They're just too comfy (it's a relatively easy gig with nice perks) to make a move. A few have even admitted that.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Jon_Snow |
Actually, I was offered a promotion. Wrong wording there I guess. It was supposed to be announced at the weekly Friday meeting and never was. Then 15 people were laid off out of the blue, the two higher-up shmucks came onboard, and the COO resigned. I went to Europe on my vacay and kind of just forgot about it. But I never forgave them for that.
And for your information, the CEO respected/agreed with my feedback. We talked about it the next day after things cooled off. No hard feelings.
I'm freelancing for them now, so it's all good. Pretty sweet gig considering I'm about to go backpacking in a few months. Internet cafes across the world, here I come. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by OrangestO
I'm freelancing for them now, so it's all good. Pretty sweet gig considering I'm about to go backpacking in a few months. Internet cafes across the world, here I come. |
Damn, that worked out well for you. Congrats. |
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| AnotherWay83 |
Anyone who still believes that CEOs give a about anyone other than themselves is an idiot, and deserves to get on.
I can understand some 21 yr fresh grad being all idealistic n , but by the time you've got a few years of work exp under your belt, you really ought to have gotten a lay of the corporate landscape. You should by your mid-20s at the very latest realize that corporations exist solely for the benefit of the executives and the board, everyone else is just a cog. If you're dumb enough to buy into all the idealistic bull they feed you through any number of channels, well, you get what's comin. |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Sushipunk |
Thanks, man.
I always told myself when this job ran its course I'd sell my stuff, stuff my backpack, and backpack the world.
Now's that time. Looking forward to it :)
| quote: | | Originally posted by AnotherWay83 |
Yea, this was my first job out of college. But you got that right.
If this experience was any indication, CEOs are definitely narcissists and full of . |
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