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are non-US countries as prudish as the US (pg. 3)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
There are a lot of ing mentally constipated Americans, but taking people to task for cheating on their spouse is not prudish at all. Like Jay has said, a Manager represents an organization, and in this case, they admitted to breaking an oath to another person. You cannot trust them to not lie and cheat in other things, you know, like baseball games. |
Hal, when did you turn into such a ? |
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| Jon_Snow |
| When he got married |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdk
But thats my point, the bad face is relative to those people looking at it. In some places the public would not care about the fact that he cheated and the organisations reputation would not suffer and there would be no action taken.
Well, no, I would agree with you there. But, him losing his job has to be related to the attitude of the organisation to these things, which in turn is related to the population at large.
Again I wouldnt disagree that what hes done is a mark of his character, but its not exactly gross misconduct for a sports manager, is it? |
There is something to be said about the court of public opinion. Yes, on some level, I actually do totally sympathize with the whole 'well what the hell does that have to do with his ability to do his job?' sentiment. Donald Sterling and David Petraeus come to mind. But that's precisely the risk component of being a public figure; not at all unlike how CEOs have hyperinflated salaries, it's often (though not at all often enough) that their performance can bring a company down, and the inherent risk of this position is why there is such a premium on their demand. I can't even believe what bull I am spewing, CEOs never suffer for anything hahahajkl afk.
Without knowing more about the specifics of what Spacey Orange is talking about though, it's difficult to discuss this with any meaning because it's such a situational thing. But from other examples, resignation following a scandal is more damage control than anything else, and it has far more to do with an omnipresent media that loves to infer sordid details than a mere reflection of American society's alleged pearl-clutching. If anything, it speaks of this manager's responsibility to protect the wife he wronged from any further hurt, if you ask me- rather similar to Petraeus' scandal. |
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| Serial Killer |
| quote: | Originally posted by zps
The US is the most pathetic country on earth. Its a complete joke and at this point I'm ashamed to even live here. Can't wait to get a passport and leave this hole. |
GTFO then.. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Hal, when did you turn into such a ? |
Cheaters are scum; not a pussy sentiment at all. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Cheaters are scum; not a pussy sentiment at all. |
Your completely two-dimensional outlook is. Didn't we have a Hal who could analyse things with brutal honesty, or did you just paper over this sentimentalism with your horrific image library? |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Without knowing more about the specifics of what Spacey Orange is talking about though, it's difficult to discuss this with any meaning because it's such a situational thing. But from other examples, resignation following a scandal is more damage control than anything else, and it has far more to do with an omnipresent media that loves to infer sordid details than a mere reflection of American society's alleged pearl-clutching. If anything, it speaks of this manager's responsibility to protect the wife he wronged from any further hurt, if you ask me- rather similar to Petraeus' scandal. |
Op is an ass hat.
The person in question resigned of his own volition. Only later did he explain the reason for his sudden departure. Neither the public or his employer had any role in his decision and would most likely would have been let go at the end of the season for lack of performance on the field. Lol |
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Internet is also to blame, and how connected Americans are to it. Every little story becomes viral rather quickly. So 'public burnings' are faster-paced now.
So instead of just one county or city knowing about such cases, now everybody attracted to the viral infection knows about it. Having moral superiority makes us condemn negative actions with colorful hashtags limited, of course, to a few characters. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Your completely two-dimensional outlook is. Didn't we have a Hal who could analyse things with brutal honesty, or did you just paper over this sentimentalism with your horrific image library? |
I have this sneaking suspicion that neither of us knows quite what the hell you are talking about, so let's bring something substantial to the discussion:
http://deadspin.com/ron-washington-...lain-1636444989
http://thescoopsports.wordpress.com...r-legal-issues/
knows what's actually going on with this guy, but it would seem as though the pandering to his marital vows was a sort of last-ditch concession before all of his gets blown up by the media. Like I said before, it's damage control, though now I agree that he might just be merely appealing to the institution rather than his own marriage. If you think my two-dimensional sentiment is trite, just wait until the real lies start making their way to the surface. Nobody holds this sort of press conference because all they did was be unfaithful. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
The specifics are completely irrelevant, both because you admitted you didn't know them and because you didn't talk in terms of them in the post I quoted. What's salient is that you're basically saying that someone who cheats on his/her partner can't be trusted professionally or in a sporting role.
A lot of cheaters are indeed selfish scumbags but a lot of them are in emotionally difficult and frustrating situations with their partners and cheat for entirely human reasons. Even now you don't know a thing about this man's relationship with his wife, about their personal interactions with each other, about the emotional situation between them. Cheating may be an act of weakness but it does not automatically render the cheater "scum" who can't be trusted in any aspect of life. You have jumped to a series of conclusions that belie a morally simplistic conception of how people really work, and I'm actually fairly convinced you wouldn't have adopted the same judgmental tone at all if it had been a woman cheating on a man. |
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