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PeacefulWarrior
"Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any organization, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection. Man has built in himself images as a fence of security - religious, political, personal. These manifest as symbols, ideas, beliefs. The burden of these images dominates man's thinking, his relationships and his daily life. These images are the causes of our problems for they divide man from man. His perception of life is shaped by the concepts already established in his mind. The content of his consciousness is his entire existence. This content is common to all humanity. The individuality is the name, the form and superficial culture he acquires from tradition and environment. The uniqueness of man does not lie in the superficial but in complete freedom from the content of his consciousness, which is common to all mankind. So he is not an individual.

Freedom is not a reaction; freedom is not a choice. It is man's pretence that because he has choice he is free. Freedom is pure observation without direction, without fear of punishment and reward. Freedom is without motive; freedom is not at the end of the evolution of man but lies in the first step of his existence. In observation one begins to discover the lack of freedom. Freedom is found in the choiceless awareness of our daily existence and activity. Thought is time. Thought is born of experience and knowledge which are inseparable from time and the past. Time is the psychological enemy of man. Our action is based on knowledge and therefore time, so man is always a slave to the past. Thought is ever-limited and so we live in constant conflict and struggle. There is no psychological evolution.

When man becomes aware of the movement of his own thoughts he will see the division between the thinker and thought, the observer and the observed, the experiencer and the experience. He will discover that this division is an illusion. Then only is there pure observation which is insight without any shadow of the past or of time. This timeless insight brings about a deep radical mutation in the mind.

Total negation is the essence of the positive. When there is negation of all those things that thought has brought about psychologically, only then is there love, which is compassion and intelligence."
--Jiddu Krishnamurti
miss_e
"He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection. Man has built in himself images as a fence of security - religious, political, personal. These manifest as symbols, ideas, beliefs"

id have to disagree.
truth is not the mirror nor the understanding through observations.
truth canno mirror anything, it has to be the absolute of things.
observation does not equal truth.

there is no complete freedom. man will never have that choice.
man breathes and his heart pumps involuntarily. man is bounded by the tedious circumstances of every day life and responsibilities.

you are what you are. your'e constantly trying to fill this void with the pursuit of knowledge. HOWEVER, there is not void to fill. therefore its okay for you to die ...existentialism in essence imho.
correct me if im wrong.
i like this. i think it was camus

- elena
ProDiGaL
utimately pointless due to its try hard nature at touching deep inside which it comes nowhere near

it kills itself because it tries in vain to be deep yet it looks at man in a robotic object perspective
DjJade
the intro sentences sound really buddhist but then each paragraph gets kinda cloudy... nice to think about though, and sometimes a good way to live depending on interpretation
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