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Heartfelt Apology to Producers/ADHD Lifestory (pg. 6)
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
My post has very relevance to my own experiences in life and have nothing to do with being ignorant... |
Apparently he isn't ignorant and can put himself in the shoes of all mentally ill people. He obviously knows how "those with truly mental problems" always behave, since he has so much experience and knowledge on the subject.
You're a threat to yourself and others? Shut the up, buck the up, and deal with it! 1st world problems! |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
Did I ever say that? I know what some have bee struggling with. That's all. Because I used to be good at listening. But after a while it's getting old. |
You can be the best listener in the world, but I'll say it for the umpteenth time: unless you've experienced/have a serious mental illness yourself, you know basically jack . All you can do is sympathize. "Knowing" and "experience" generally go hand in hand.
And yes, I agree with you, bitching and moaning about one's problems, whether it has to do with mental illness or otherwise, can get old. Most people have their own problems to deal with. |
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| deegee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
Did I ever say that? I know what some have bee struggling with. That's all. Because I used to be good at listening. But after a while it's getting old. |
Yeah, people should just stop being sick!
You do not know whether someone is just bitching or whether they have a mental illness unless you are them or their healthcare provider, so seriously, stop with this crap about how people are just whining. Because you. Don't. Know. |
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| deegee |
No, you don't know.
You don't know whether the person over there walking with a cane is using it as a fashion statement or if they have multiple sclerosis.
You don't know whether the person relating their lived experience is 'whining' or is suffering from depression or a personality disorder.
You. Do. Not. Know.
And the horse you are spouting here is exactly why mental health services are so underfunded; ignorant people like you saying "nah, just shut up and get over it" when you have not one bloody idea what someone is actually going through.
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
My problem with this thread is that people with adhd claims its a death sentience on level with cancer. I mean common wake the up. Cancer is serious . ADHD is a funny personality disorder that may drive some into dispear. Not on level with cancer. That is judgemental and discrimination towards everyone who experienced cancer personally or within family. Get a grip adhd people, it's not so bad. If anything you may be interesting and fascinating. As long as you don't whine. |
FUNNY?
You're just trolling at this point. I truly hope you never have to suffer a mental illness. I hope even more that nobody you love ever has to, because they're going to get nothing but contempt and scorn from you when they need compassion and support. |
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| deegee |
I don't give a wet fart in a snowstorm if you think that your opinion is correct to you. Some opinions are dangerous and actively harmful, and easily shown to be wrong.
Like yours, for example.
You do not know what is going on behind someone else's forehead. You do not know the struggles they are facing--some of the most unwell people I have met have been extremely extroverted as a coping mechanism, for example.
Stop. Just stop. |
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| deegee |
Dude, your perspective consists of a) whiners need to shut up, b) apparently anyone speaking out about their problems isn't mentally ill and should be passed over for treatment in favour of people who don't, c) mental illness isn't that bad.
Frankly, I'd rather have a terminal physical illness than the problems I have. At least that way there are simple surgical/medication interventions that either work or don't.
And nobody tells you you're not really suffering that badly.
I grasp your perspective, I just reject it because it is based on stigma and moral judgement. Stop it. |
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| deegee |
...so, yeah, you've just been trolling.
You might want to rethink how your attitude has made the OP of this thread feel. They made themselves vulnerable and over and over you've said their problem is no big deal and they should just suck it up.
That's seriously sucky behaviour. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| You become an adult and still use labels like "extrovert," "introvert," and "happy according to the Maslow scale?" What the ? Don't you think people - especially adults - are just a little more multifaceted to be pigeonholed into a certain category or according to some dude's "scale?" |
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| deegee |
Thank you for sharing that.
Please, if you will, imagine if my comment told you that your problems are no big deal and you should suck it up. Your problems are real and are obviously having a negative effect on your quality of life.
Also, try looking into Dialectical Behaviour Therapy. It's primarily a therapeutic modality used for Borderline Personality Disorder and is an offshoot of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. There are, to me, two main benefits of DBT over CBT: 1) the emphasis on dealing with strong emotional states--including anxiety (mindfulness will be particularly helpful here, as well as being a practice that is excellent for creative work), and 2) because it is a fairly well-defined framework, you can very easily work through the skills yourself.
It's more effective in a group therapy setting, but it's not entirely mandatory. http://www.dbtselfhelp.com/ is a good place to start, and if you need help or coaching, I am in a DBT program currently, and you can PM me. |
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| deegee |
Don't. If nothing else, sharing like that lets other people know they're not alone.
If you want suggestions for skills to help cope with how you are feeling right now, feel free to ask. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| Good stuff, Palm. And don't let anyone tell you that you need help or therapy or meds unless you yourself feel like you can't cope and have tried everything else. ;) I started getting mood swings and shifts in personality at around 23, but I never bitched about it or sought help. I think the only time a person should seek help is if they're a risk to themselves or others, or they literally have tried everything but still can't cope. Otherwise who the needs all this therapy? Very often these therapists themselves need more help than their patients. |
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| deegee |
Yeah, in the same way only someone who can't walk should seek physiotherapy to walk again.
Not.
It doesn't work that way, and denial solves nothing. |
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