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| rubez |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hey rubez, did you ever get around to understanding the US constitution's 16th amendment? |
hardly the thread... but never mind income taxes being voluntary - the 16th amendment was never ratified - something they swept under the carpet. the US collects taxes by force and fear.
if the mighty ron paul says it is an illegal tax and is not constitutional, then that's what it is - are you saying you know the constitution or the law better than ron paul? :stongue: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| you're dumb. like, really really dumb. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
hardly the thread... but never mind income taxes being voluntary - the 16th amendment was never ratified - something they swept under the carpet. the US collects taxes by force and fear. |
"The Sixteenth Amendment was proposed by Congress on July 12, 1909, when it passed the House, 44 Cong. Rec. (61st Cong., 1st Sess.) 4390, 4440, 4441, having previously passed the Senate on July 5. Id., 4121. It appears officially in 36 Stat. 184. Ratification was completed on February 3, 1913, when the legislature of the thirty-sixth State (Delaware, Wyoming, or New Mexico) approved the amendment, there being then 48 States in the Union. On February 25, 1913, Secretary of State Knox certified that this amendment had become a part of the Constitution. 37 Stat. 1785."
http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendments.html#f8
Gosh, isn't it inconvenient when reality disagrees with what your nutbag ideology says should be true?
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
he's just a gullible fool. the "16th was never ratified" nonsense was a common conspiracy theory in the 80s or 90s and relied upon by a bunch of tax avoiders. needless to say these people all lost, got heavy fines and/or incarceration.
the fact that ron paul apparently buys into this nonsense says a lot more about paul than it does the amendment. sadly for rubez the supreme court determines what laws mean, not ron paul.
rubez is just a child who believes everything they read on the internet. the problem with scotland, is that it's full of scots. |
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| rubez |
needless to say ron paul is infinitely more informed than you on the subject, and i think you are aware of this.
very good you can quote a film. scots were significant in the forming of america.
and Vector A, maybe you should look into WHY people say the amendment wasn't properly legally ratified, instead of copying and pasting stuff like a sheep.
this thread is about . bring up the ron paul thread if you want to yammer on about it. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| :stongue: so dumb. |
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| rubez |
| you sound like an idiot mate, give yourself a break. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
and Vector A, maybe you should look into WHY people say the amendment wasn't properly legally ratified, instead of copying and pasting stuff like a sheep. |
I already did, actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_pr...dment_arguments
Unfortunately, these have all been rejected by judges every single time they have been advanced. Ron Paul may know a bit more about American law than pkcRAISTLIN, but he is after all a doctor, not a judge or a legal scholar. But I guess law school must turn people into "sheep," too, right?
Are you actually Scottish, or are you an American who changed your flag? It discourages me to think that what I believed was a stupidity particular to my country may have been leaking beyond its borders.
Baaah! Baaah! |
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| rubez |
| transferring you to the good doctor ron paul's thread... |
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| Dykes_on_Jay |
| Come to China Rubez, with your intellect, you would easily makes waves as an assistant cucumber picker. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| He reads The Sun, it's odds-on he works on a building site anyway. |
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| rubez |
wait a minute, no-one ever said anything about reading!
i read the guardian mostly (website form) it's a great site, though the new incoming redesign is awful. anyway... i am enjoying watching them trying to backpedal intelligently on this subject.
seen today's page 3, it's an awesome kick in the stones (vagina?) to the righteous commentators over the past few days. it's like they had this planned all along. free advertising. now, here's some to make you look like a tit, enjoy.
sadly can't find the unedited version.
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