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Why did analog hardware in electronic music stop in production?
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| Dj Pluviose |
I dont get it. Almost 95% of all the tracks that we all love today and back then were created from analog hardware. It has more warmth to it. There's more depth to it. It just sounds more organic.
All the acid tunes we love from back then are analog. All the dutch anthems that eventually became cheesy to us years after our jolly honeymoon phase were all analog. Suburban Train sounds ing amazing still.
My question is, why did analog hardware have to go, and what would it have been like if people continued to update, reinvent, and take progress with it? |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
All the dutch anthems that eventually became cheesy to us years after our jolly honeymoon phase were all analog. |
No they were not, lol.
The biggest synths powering turn of millennium trance anthems were JP-8000 / JP-8080, Nord Lead, and Access Virus. All digital synths.
There is a difference between "analog" and "hardware." All analog synths are hardware. Not all hardware synths are analog. Do you realize this?
Besides, lots of people still use analog synths today. It's not like they stopped being made. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
I dont get it. Almost 95% of all the tracks that we all love today and back then were created from analog hardware. It has more warmth to it. There's more depth to it. It just sounds more organic.
All the acid tunes we love from back then are analog. All the dutch anthems that eventually became cheesy to us years after our jolly honeymoon phase were all analog. Suburban Train sounds ing amazing still.
My question is, why did analog hardware have to go, and what would it have been like if people continued to update, reinvent, and take progress with it? |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
It has more warmth to it. There's more depth to it. It just sounds more organic.
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That is just placebo talking. No tool - analog or digital - will have more "warmth" in it than the other. It all comes down to who uses it and how it's being used.
A lot of the old hardware was clunky and insanely difficult to use, which is why not many want to use them any more. |
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| Syntonic |
| Cost and you actually have to know something about synth programming to construct original sounds. |
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| djnitride |
It stopped because digital sounds just as good and is easier to use?
If you want "phat" old school analog sound in software you can just use Monark or Diva. |
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| 2techs |
| organic is the key word. I miss that textural sound as well. |
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| Dj Pluviose |
| quote: | Originally posted by djnitride
It stopped because digital sounds just as good and is easier to use?
If you want "phat" old school analog sound in software you can just use Monark or Diva. |
Easier to use but does not sound as good. R u kidding me?
Gouryella and Where Are You Now have some pretty legendary bass lines and I have never heard anything else like that. There's no newer digital EDM I heard that can come close to that organic, warm and atmospheric sound in those tracks. |
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| djnitride |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
Easier to use but does not sound as good. R u kidding me?
Gouryella and Where Are You Now have some pretty legendary bass lines and I have never heard anything else like that. There's no newer digital EDM I heard that can come close to that organic, warm and atmospheric sound in those tracks. |
Do you even know what synths were involved in those productions? Do you know what synths were popular with dutch/euro trance producers?
Also I am guessing you don't know what Diva or Monark are without googling it.
Just take the rose tinted glasses off and understand that people are not trying to sound like the sound of 10+ years ago. When they want to there are existing software options available that are extremely close in their emulation, going so far as to model the entire circuit behavior in software. |
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| trancedanne |
Plugins are easier to use but i guess its more difficult to achieve just as good results with those compared to hardware.
If you have for example a 303 or Xoxbox it will probably sound better then whoever uses a plugin version, unless you are really damn good.
And if you have good preamp, distortion pedal with that, its game over. :o |
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| meriter |
probably has more to do with loudness than anything
and it's not necessary to get your tracks mastered for vinyl anymore, so the move away from producers going to mastering engineers in general played a big part I think
on top of that... those old tracks you probably heard when they were already cut to a record. With straight-to-digital releases theres no need to remove those harsh high frequencies that can't realistically be cut to vinyl. People do like that sound though, louder=better obviously |
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| Dj Pluviose |
I suppose it's the mastering? No that can't just be it. I'm sure many artists still send their rough drafts to master sound engineers to get it tweaked.
There is something I can't really pinpoint but I know it's there. I know what you guys mean when you say louder always sounds more crisp and stuff.
Man I don't know. I like how the older stuff sounds though and you can really tell the difference on really nice speakers or with really nice headphones. |
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