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blocks vs clips
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| rubez |
back when FL used blocks, i found it much more fun and intuitive to work with. now clips are the norm i find it a grind.
what are your thoughts on this? and why have blocks fallen by the wayside? |
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| JEO |
I was a bit intimidated first too when I realized they will be dropping the blocks completely, but I quickly started using clips and wouldn't go back to using blocks again, tbh. My workflow feels just a tad better now, as I can have automation clips with score in the same window, and even group them by relevant automation clips being "children" of the instrument they "belong to", like so:
Relevant automation clips to Mid pad are indented a bit. IIRC this kind of stuff wasn't possible with the blocks.
I'm not completely certain, but I could make a guess that this "block" system hasn't been possible in any other big DAWs.
Regarding FL in general.. It seems like they've done a few changes to the UI in 12, and I don't like it that much. The wires on the mixer are a very welcome helper though. |
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| rubez |
interesting.
automation is something i haven't even gotten into yet, but have thought about. it emulates turning a knob on a filter? i guess clips are something you need to embrace if you are serious about producing for automation purposes at least.
FL is the only DAW that i've tried that was intuitive right away. i didn't need to read a manual or anything. i tried ableton live and was like... wtf. didn't even know where to start. |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
interesting.
automation is something i haven't even gotten into yet, but have thought about. it emulates turning a knob on a filter? i guess clips are something you need to embrace if you are serious about producing for automation purposes at least.
FL is the only DAW that i've tried that was intuitive right away. i didn't need to read a manual or anything. i tried ableton live and was like... wtf. didn't even know where to start. |
Automation comes into its own when you start arranging a track, have you made a full track yet? |
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| rubez |
not really, just short tracks with intro/build/break etc.
the blocks offered more spontaneity i thought. |
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| zodiac9 |
| Clips are great, I can't ever go back to blocks. Seeing the automations is such a huge leap forward. I put off upgrading FL for so long, silly me, didn't know what I was missing. Ok, I'm still using an older version now, so I'm probably missing out on something. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| blocks and clips kinda sound like the same thing ie containers that are linked. i'm guessing you mean a thrucomposed arrangement style vs dropping in containers that are mini arrangements |
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| TranceElevation |
| It seems to me like you're afraid of new things in general. |
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| JEO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
blocks and clips kinda sound like the same thing ie containers that are linked. i'm guessing you mean a thrucomposed arrangement style vs dropping in containers that are mini arrangements |
The actual difference between the block and clip approaches in FL seems to be that with blocks, you'll end up having a separate row for each "mini arrangement" in the playlist. For example Drums 1, Drums 2, Drums 3, etc. would all lie on their own rows in the playlist. Now, with clips, you'll "easily" place every relevant thing on the same row if you so wish; Drums 1, 2, 3 are now on the same row, more easily accessible and "readable" – at least for me. So, with blocks, different arrangements for the same instrument will grow your playlist vertically, with clips not. |
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| JEO |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
It seems to me like you're afraid of new things in general. |
Not as much as we all are afraid of your judgment. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
Perhaps he could try something new and quit trying to be a dick. terrible insults for people that should be somewhat creative.
I always found FL studio rather unintuitive. It really has potential if they would just add all the normal daw stuff as their automation is probably the most involved. Their patcher tool is quite cool as well although it is buggy. |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by JEO
Not as much as we all are afraid of your judgment. |
Thanks. Is good to know you perceive me as such authoritative figure. |
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