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25 keys keyboard, and more importantly, a motor vehicle transmission debate (pg. 5)
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| TranceElevation |
| Yes, but first RANN should admit that he's a dirty liar cause he omitted to say those statistic were relevant for the USA. By omitting that he alluded the big majority of the world drives automatic which is a blatant lie. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Any chance we could get back on topic? :wtf: |
This thread had a topic? :p
OK, here is my attempt at an actual helpful reply. OP - it makes much more sense (space- and budget-permitting) to go with a bigger keyboard if this is for home use. It's much more convenient and you will have an easier time advancing if you have a keyboard with at least 49 keys (61/88 is even better). Think long-term. If you really need assistance getting used to the notes/octaves, you could try using something like these note decals until you're comfortable with it. I typically wouldn't recommend a crutch like this to my own students since, as I mentioned many times, it shouldn't take you much time at all to learn them. But, they shouldn't hurt as long as you don't rely on them for very long. Again, think long-term and buy a keyboard that you can grow into, rather than something you'll outgrow in a short time. That's my advice. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Where did you read that bull? I'm sure you're not telling the whole story.
99% of the cars in Europe are manual (including Eurasia) and there isn't any tendency to change that. Whole Africa drives manual and the middle east as well. Most of Latin America drives manual. Not sure for Asia, but I think a part from Japan there is 50/50. |
For s sake man, are you that dense? I even put a link in the post to one such site stating these facts. It's even called 5 myths about manual transmissions lol.
Do learn to read before falsely calling bull.
Secondly, re-read my post. I also said new cars made. Not cars in existence, hence why dying breed.
I named one of the biggest American Auto Makers and One of the Biggest Asian manufacturers, both of which now have more fuel efficient autos than they do manuals.
So answer to your nonsense filled rant, there is apparently a "tendency to change that".
You drive manuals because you get reamed on petrol and taxes on cars, and that extra 500 in actual cost to get the auto option means a lot more on the sticker price, and then factor in the myth that they are still more fuel efficient, and muppets like you still believe the past is true.
In second and third world countries, of course they drive manuals, because they don't buy or drive new cars and when they do, they are going for the cheapest option possible, which is manual. I went to Egypt about 6 years ago. Apart from when I visited a fancy hotel one afternoon or seeing government vehicles, there wasn't a single car newer than 1970. I'm not exaggerating. All old Peugeots and Renaults being kept alive with like 1m miles on the locks and counting.
Is it really little surprise people in poor countries don't drive teslas. Not rocket science. |
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| TranceElevation |
Please quote me the exact paragraph where it states that data is referring to the whole world and not specifically to the usa.
Come on you lying bitch! |
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| DJ RANN |
Keep coming super muppet.
click me because TranceFlatulation is too dense to search
Manual is on the deathbed globally, not just in the USA.
Farari have completely abandoned manual ("it just doesn't work well") as are Porsche and Jaguar, so soon even sportscars won't have them as an option. Electric cars are the final nail in that coffin.
I love driving manual on vintage cars - wouldn't have it any other way - but all the reasons (which are the main points you keep avoiding) just don't apply as of a few years ago.
get with it. I'm thinking you drive one of these, right?
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | According to Edmunds.com, the online automotive research company in Santa Monica, Calif., manual or stick shift transmissions comprised roughly seven percent of new car sales in the first quarter of 2012. 1 By August 2013, the new cars sold in the U.S. with manual transmissions had dropped to 3.9 percent.
Twenty-seven years ago, 29 percent of new cars sold in the United States were equipped with manual transmissions. |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Please quote me the exact paragraph where it states that data is referring to the whole world and not specifically to the usa. |
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| rubez |
automatics are affront to driving. even though new MT cars are still the vast majority in the UK and EU, it seems the MT box is an outgoing technology - to make way for "trends". i.e. double clutch transmission, as there are things you can do with it that a manual box just cannot achieve... it is coming from high end car manufacturers, as they don't want to be left behind in the arms race, but you can be sure that will trickle down to ty runaround cars, which will give them the latest USP that your average drive doesn't need to help flog their motors.
i will be driving a MT until it becomes unviable, as i like to control my car. be it long or short shifts, or shifting in blocks. autos put another obstacle between the driver and the car, and that is unacceptable for any enthusiast... you need to remember that most people buying high end cars - ferraris etc - are not enthusiasts... just rich douchebags eager to show off their latest car brimmed with the latest technology. there's a reason why you see many mangled supercars in the papers - it's not because they have too much power to handle, it's because these douchebags can't drive! |
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| evo8 |
| Switched to auto for my current car, would never go back to manual!!! (17 years driving a manual) |
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| rubez |
| it's a soccer mom type wagon though, right? :stongue: |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rubez
it's a soccer mom type wagon though, right? :stongue: |
not even close :D |
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| rubez |
what then? is it a performance car?
a significant part of the joy of driving is managing the gears. i know autos have a kick down but what if the bastard shifts back up when you don't want it to?
you gotta be in the right gear, at the right revs to spool your turbo as much as you need so that when you plant your foot you vanish in a cloud of smoke... especially if you have a very specific power band.
plus there are numerous benefits to being able to dip the clutch at will. i can safely say i will not drive an automatic as long as i am able bodied and MT motor cars are on this earth.
can you imagine automatic transmissions in motorsport?! :stongue: |
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