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happy birthday roger federer (pg. 2)
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| sensorium |
Not necessarily. Roger, for example, isn't a fan of long rallies. The modifications, like I said, favor more Novak's original style of play. He hasn't done as many changes as other top players have done just to adapt.
So of course he's the best in the game, every court change has benefited him!
Slowed down courts means longer rallies, which obviously don't favor aging players, as you call them. How do you come up with the opposing idea about that?
Novak is 28 and is pushing his body more than any other player. He's like a Cristiano Ronaldo, great body but not a lot of skill to go with it. So you sit and enjoy, because he also happens to be an "aging player" who can't even drink a beer, and he's going to be in decline faster than any other player. |
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| OrangestO |
Dude has the best return the game has ever seen. And yet he has no skill?
Did Novak sleep with your wife or something? You must be mad if you start talking about his beer-drinking abilities, lol. |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by OrangestO
Slow down the court? Wouldn't that work in favor of aging players like Nadal and Fed?
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Not really, especially for Federer who hits the ball flatter (straighter trajectory) which gives your opponent less time to react is actually nullified by the extra friction from all the extra sand they use in the courts now.
Basically, all that bull means his shots stick on the court just a tad longer and a good defender like Djokovic makes him pay and forces him to go for bigger shots thus more errors from Federer.
Wimbledon changed to a thicker grass in 2002 because 'Big Servers' like Pete Sampras who had the best single shot in tennis, the serve, and mediocre 'Big Servers' like Goran Ivanesevic winning Wimbledon just with a serve made customers paying big money for finals tickets unhappy about the action...basically a serving contest in 2001. Ticket holders wanted more action like the Australian, French and U.S. Opens had, both eventually slowed down or Federer-proofed many say. Djokovic openly admits Australian Open being slower now.
It was basically the only thing they could do to help make tennis exciting because the past 10 years have been dominated by Rafa and Federer. Nadal is probably the most affected player from all the sand as it takes all the bite away from his topspin, which is why he is getting beat by scrubs in the past few years. There really isn't any variation in court types anymore except for indoors play. |
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| sensorium |
| quote: | Originally posted by OrangestO
Dude has the best return the game has ever seen. And yet he has no skill?
Did Novak sleep with your wife or something? You must be mad if you start talking about his beer-drinking abilities, lol. |
I didn't say no skill. Where's your reading comprehension? :confused:
The beer comment was a joke because, again, Novak relies too much on his strength so he avoids stuff like a beer. Some might call it devotion, I just think he knows he has to be at his best physically because he knows talent isn't much and he's also aging.
Will Novak be around at 34 like Roger? Of course not. |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by sensorium
He's like a Cristiano Ronaldo, great body but no skill to go with it. |
Lol.
Worst sports comparison ever! |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
Not really, especially for Federer who hits the ball flatter (straighter trajectory) which gives your opponent less time to react is actually nullified by the extra friction from all the extra sand they use in the courts now.
Basically, all that bull means his shots stick on the court just a tad longer and a good defender like Djokovic makes him pay and forces him to go for bigger shots thus more errors from Federer.
Wimbledon changed to a thicker grass in 2002 because 'Big Servers' like Pete Sampras who had the best single shot in tennis, the serve, and mediocre 'Big Servers' like Goran Ivanesevic winning Wimbledon just with a serve made customers paying big money for finals tickets unhappy about the action...basically a serving contest in 2001. Ticket holders wanted more action like the Australian, French and U.S. Opens had, both eventually slowed down or Federer-proofed many say. Djokovic openly admits Australian Open being slower now.
It was basically the only thing they could do to help make tennis exciting because the past 10 years have been dominated by Rafa and Federer. Nadal is probably the most affected player from all the sand as it takes all the bite away from his topspin, which is why he is getting beat by scrubs in the past few years. There really isn't any variation in court types anymore except for indoors play. |
You confused me a bit toward the end, but I get what you're saying.
Interesting.
But I still don't agree with not giving Novak full credit for his play right now.
I still love you though, Roger! Call me :gsmile: |
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| Syntonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by sensorium
Novak relies too much on his strength so he avoids stuff like a beer. Some might call it devotion, I just think he knows he has to be at his best physically because he knows talent isn't much and he's also aging.
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That reminds me of when he used forfeit matches because of breathing problems which led to upping his fitness and the radical diet. If he does drink it's gluten-free.
Biggest thing that help Djokovic was the racquet change, going from a 93 to 100 square inches. Federer as well going from 90 to 98 sq.in. Much more power and more forgiving on off-center hits. Most players won't even consider a racquet change as it counteracts all the years of muscle memory...biomechanics are greatly affected. |
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| Jon_Snow |
| Back in the day no one could touch Roger, he was perfection, the slams piled up with no end in sight. Then Novak and Nadal came of age and instead of getting a great rivalry they shut the door. I like Roger but I don't think he'll win another slam. He had such a complete game and the nerves and confidence to close out opponents in crucial points. So it's hard to believe what's happened over the past years. |
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| Big Worm |
| Fed's one handed backhand in his prime was amazing |
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| OrangestO |
| They're playing one hell of a final match right now. Fed just won the first set tiebreaker. |
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| Syntonic |
| Watched it as well, great first set and then Fed put the afterburner on in the tiebreaker...and how about those half-volley service returns, ridiculous hand-eye coordination. He had the complete package going that day. |
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| Big Worm |
| Anyone watching the final??? Incredible tennis!! |
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