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Lira
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
and you don't burn bridges at these places

Oh, all righty then.

I assumed this could bite him back as they've got his resume and whatnot.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I know im a pretty cunt

Fixed :gsmile:
Dykes_on_Jay
As Clooney said, it is a numbers game.

I personally think they are one of the biggest forms of scum. Eliminating them would put more money in the employees pocket.
Mr.Mystery
I didn't know this was even a thing. Sounds pretty terrible.
SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Oh, all righty then.

I assumed this could bite him back as they've got his resume and whatnot.


The only repercussion of his threat is my HR department would be wise to me pulling a sicky to go to an interview. And since I'm not currently looking for work, it's no threat at all.

The only real burnt bridge is that I can no longer use this agency if I ever want to look for work. But why would I want to deal with someone so inept?
Frenkieee
I bet if you would forward this mail to the MD they'll just compliment him for his perseverence because like Clooney said, they don't give a about you, they just care about their numbers.

I'm in a line of work that gets me a lot of mails and calls from recruiters. Most of them are just copy/paste mails they send to everyone, just changing the name. No details, just saying that they have "a great opportunity" for something that "totally fits your profile".

This week I got a mail from a recruiter looking for someone with a specific profile. The one that I clearly don't have, as she could have known if she had actually read my profile. Or that one time that this other recruiter, who I had previously talked to and explained to what job I was on at that time and where, saying that he had something that was very close to where I live which was in fact two times the distance that I was travelling already. Just because it happened to be in the same province as I live in.

My only positive experience is with one recruiter who mailed me right after I switched jobs, saying how he regretted that fact because he had been following me for quite a while and had me on his hotlist. And actually we exchanged some more emails and he ended with saying how he liked the fact that in 8 years of amateur football, playing as a central defender, I had only gotten 2 yellow cards. Some might find that creepy, but I actually appreciated the interest. Coincidentally, I spoke to a colleague of mine today who told a very similar story about that recruiter. He'll definitely be the one that I'm calling when I'm looking to switch jobs.

tl;dr
it, that's how they roll. Don't bother and just forget about him.
DJ RANN
If you want to work with the agency in the future, then leave it but if some er sent me that email? It would go straight to his MD;

Threatening you in the way he did is a complete violation of recruitment standards. If people can't look for jobs and be assured of discretion then that entire industry would be out of work.

There's also the argument of why would you want to use an agency that hires twats like him - there's also a million other agencies to choose from so it's not like there's only one bridge out there and you musn't burn it.

I will say my experience with recruiters has been fairly positive - I always ended up getting the job myself but the options they always presented were significantly higher (like 10-15k) salaries and with really good companies. Was really just a case of timing or another job being a slighter better path. I do think there's a place for them but the gutter feeding ones (like they guy who was pestering you) should not have a job themselves.
EarnYourKeep
do you live under a rock? are you that inexperienced? i forgot you're that boy from the other thread

it makes sense now, you're dumb, you're trying to analyze the social setting and forcing him to act/speak to you in a certain way

what's it feel like being so closed off to the world? you must be that type who don't know how to handle themselves if your caught in the wrong part of town...the type that mumbles when you get pressed for something so small as a dollar, the type that continues a conversation with someone who's trying to sell you something because you're afraid to end the conversation and walk away

if you knew anything, recruiters and staffing companies profit margin is offering any and all candidates opportunities to grow themselves, thus in turn coaching any candidate into fake landing a job

but that might be too street for your boy status, feeble minded big word SAT vocabulary punk ass correct grammar type of bitchassness
SYSTEM-J
Go back to your gangsta drama, playa, the adults are talking here.
JEO
I've only been "headhunted" twice my whole life. It wasn't really anything like you described in the op – as in not threatening to inform my company about anything – but clearly they had just gone through LinkedIn looking for possible candidates and decided to call everyone. Still, both times, I've been quite flattered that they went through the "trouble" of calling me and reading my CV to at least some extent. The other time they had even checked my personal website. I don't really mind the calls, because getting a call from someone in this hole is quite something already.

I get those LinkedIn recruitment mass posts a lot, but I don't bother with them, since they don't really go through the trouble of personalizing the offer at all. Here the circles are quite small, so I don't understand why they won't just call all the 30 Java developers in Finland and make the offer more appealing for the recruitee that way.

Still, the difference here, compared to your situation, is that they acknowledge they step into your day out of the blue, and they're aware of that (they will ask you if they're bothering, and if it's appropriate to talk about another potential job), so they won't be dicks. If some recruiter emailed me something like that, I'd probably spread the word about the company itself a lot, not just inform the company of that individual. Make it their business to make their methods better.
Lira
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The only repercussion of his threat is my HR department would be wise to me pulling a sicky to go to an interview. And since I'm not currently looking for work, it's no threat at all.

The only real burnt bridge is that I can no longer use this agency if I ever want to look for work. But why would I want to deal with someone so inept?

Phew, good to hear then. Still, avoid unleashing the fury of the incompetent. If they're irrational, that also you can't tell what they may do next to "get even". You're probably safe this time but, you know... better safe than sorry :p

Alex
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Originally posted by EarnYourKeep
boy


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SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Phew, good to hear then. Still, avoid unleashing the fury of the incompetent. If they're irrational, that also you can't tell what they may do next to "get even". You're probably safe this time but, you know... better safe than sorry :p


Here's the thing. Yes I was a bit of a dick in my email, but the guy had made a mistake: he'd repeatedly forgotten about our previous contact. My reply to his email should have jogged his memory and he should have realised he was pestering me due to his own error. When you work in anything involving sales, unsolicited correspondence or cold calling, you should take it as given that you are encroaching on someone else's time, and that sometimes they might be annoyed by that.

What s me off about the incident is not his pestering or even his threat, but the fact he clearly thinks I am the one who made a mistake! The guy responded the way he did because he thought I was being a dick to him due to my own crossed wires. That email is a triple-whammy of infuriating bull:

1. A smug and completely inaccurate rebuke of me for a mistake I didn't make and that he did.

2. A -eating sales-talk justification of his own sloppy methodology.

3. A threat that basically shuts me down from replying and pointing out all of the above!

I'm furious, Marcus, because he has denied me the opportunity to murder him in an argument, an argument where he's ripe to be absolutely pulverised! A colossal cretin has irritated me, fired off a triumphant message "proving" that I'm wrong about something and then threatened to go nuclear if I retort. Can you think of a set of circumstances more perfectly primed to enrage SYSTEM bloody J?
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