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SPECTRE zOMG!! (pg. 2)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
Been catching up on old films. Watched From Russia with Love last night. Planning on watching Thunderball tonight. Need to get in the SPECTRE mood for this weekend.
Favorite film = The Spy Who Loved Me |
My favorites are the Connery Bonds, but The Spy Who loved me is brilliant. I went to Carnac, Egypt a few years ago. It was super early morning and the sun had just come up. I couldn't resist running around like Jaws was chasing me.
You got to give it Goldfinger or Thunderball as the best best Bonds; They're true vintage Fleming and Connery peaks as the character of bond. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by r5a
idris is next level boss. is there any rumors about this or did you just pick him becasue he's so ing good in everything |
It is/was actually rumored that he could be the next Bond. There are several candidates (as usual) and he was one of them. The list includes Michael Fastbender and even Tom Hardy. |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
My favorites are the Connery Bonds, but The Spy Who loved me is brilliant. I went to Carnac, Egypt a few years ago. It was super early morning and the sun had just come up. I couldn't resist running around like Jaws was chasing me.
You got to give it Goldfinger or Thunderball as the best best Bonds; They're true vintage Fleming and Connery peaks as the character of bond. |
Without a doubt! Goldfinger is also one of my favs. I mean a line like this:
James Bond: Do you expect me to talk?
Auric Goldfinger: No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!
BAMMMM!!! |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by r5a
idris is next level boss. is there any rumors about this or did you just pick him becasue he's so ing good in everything |
He was actually tapped to be the next Bond after Craig - The agents and studio were making it happen but it all went south with the Sony leak - Often with these things the negotiations have to happen behind closed doors until it's all inked but when it came out in those emails (Which by the way, wasn't a hack by N. Korea) the negotations went off the rails as other players (managers and agents) wanted their talent to have a shot so it all got messy and went to .
Elba was later quoted as saying "If there was a chance of me being Bond, it's gone now".
I truly hope they can make it happen. He would be a ing great Bond. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
Without a doubt! Goldfinger is also one of my favs. I mean a line like this:
James Bond: Do you expect me to talk?
Auric Goldfinger: No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!
BAMMMM!!! |
Lol, ing great.
One of my faves from Diamonds are forever:
Girl with massive juggs: "Hi, I'm plenty..."
Connery: "But of course you are"
Girl: "...Penty O'Toole"
Connery: "You must be named after your Father"
Classic. |
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| bananas |
Pretty dumb movie. It would've been a little different if I went in with the kind of expectations I would have for a flick like Furious 7. Just to kick back, eat some popcorn and enjoy the unbelievable stunts, and laugh at the ridiculousness. But this was supposed to be a smarter movie, at least I expected it to be after what I saw in Skyfall, and after Sam Mendes said that he'd like to make this one like The Dark Knight was made.
This got some great views, cool stunts, but it's stupid, the plot is underdeveloped, overall it was a letdown imho, but if you're ready to turn off your brain for a little, and not question whatever the is happening on screen you can have a good couple of hours. |
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| Zharen |
| quote: | Originally posted by bananas
This got some great views, cool stunts, but it's stupid, the plot is underdeveloped, overall it was a letdown imho, but if you're ready to turn off your brain for a little, and not question whatever the is happening on screen you can have a good couple of hours. |
Have to agree, not as intelligent as some of the other films have been. I like the plot centering in around global surveillance just because I've been a fan of the Bond films staying relevant to current events, but aside from that I was rather bored and underwhelmed. And the car chase scene in Rome instantly had me thinking "Fast and the Furious, rich men in tuxedos version."
So far, Skyfall still remains as my favorite of the Daniel Craig films. |
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| DJ RANN |
I really don't ing get why everyone has such a boner over skyfall.
It was tediously long, and save a couple of good scenes it was decided average as a Bond. The characters were some of th test in any bond. Javier bardem as a camp, flamboyantly gay techie baddie? Ooh scary. Disfigured Bond villain? Tick. If only they'd thought of that in Casino Royal.
Continuity much? He gets shot twice in the opening sequence but only has one bullet wound. Motocross bike off a bridge and suddenly he's in wide open pasture. Great job guys.
The plot? A drive containing every agent's name is stolen.
Would be a great plot for a Tom Cruise film (which is laughable as they were really a rip off of Bond, so now Bond is ripping off it's rip offs?).
And the plot really is a series of random happening that we keep getting told are by design, but there's nothing to back it up.
And then by the time we get in to the film, the whole premise (that list of agents) is just completely forgotten about, and it's devolved in to a bad guy vs MI6 schlock of itself action flick. all those agents in danger or the ones who already got revealed and killed. Doesn't matter.
Dropping a train on someone? Great. Except the location was meant to be secret and much as I'm not a CGI fest fan, the model they used made me laugh out loud in the cinema. At least Ray Harryhausen pulled that prior to the age of computers.
It really just stumbled through 2.5 hours of cliched Bond throwbacks, and frankly if it wasn;t for Craig's ability to lead a film and Adele's ability to belt out a song, it would have tanked and been the end of him as Bond.
It's great fodder for the uninitiated. If you've never seen a Mission impossible film or like Jason Staham thrillers, Skyfall is right up your alley. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
I haven't seen Skyfall but I did see Spectre at the cinema last week, and it's a load of silly old bollocks. I feel aggrieved by some of the wildly positive reviews that lead me to believe it would be any good - the Guardian gave it five stars!
The plot is abject nonsense - Bond trundles from location to location trying to uncover the bad guy's secret lair, following clues that someone has spent countless years accumulating. All of this culminates with him stepping off a train in the middle of the desert and just kicking back for a few hours until a Rolls Royce appears out of nowhere and takes him to the villain's luxury death spa, where he willingly hands in his weapons, gets taken for a tour and then is brutalised.
There's a torture scene befitting of Austin Powers, where Bond gets his brain drilled by precision tools that are supposed to destroy his coordination and memory, only for him to burst out the chair and murder everyone effortlessly. No attempt is made to explain why he isn't a dribbling vegetable in the chair - the most compelling theory I've read online is that the last third of the film is a coma dream by the now paraplegic Mr Bond.
The love story is woefully under-developed to the point of literally being laughable (the whole cinema was laughing at a scene they were not supposed to laugh at) and yet by the end of the film it's supposed to be enough to make Bond sack off MI6 and start a new life. Similarly, we never actually see the arch villain do anything remotely villainous. All he gets to do is wander around his evil facility reading out his evil plans from an iPad before commencing his bull brain surgery.
How the longest Bond film ever made couldn't find time to write in a proper emotional connection or dramatic tension between any of its main characters I don't know. In fact, I'm not sure where all that running time went - shovelling in the endless silly globe-trotting plotline, I suppose.
I know the Bond films are supposed to be a bit daft, but the Daniel Craig films have attempted to reconcile that in a more realistic setting. This new film is stuck halfway between being a classic Bond with its ridiculous supervillains, storylines and torture scenes but also wants to be a bit gritty and modern with an introspective, tortured hero. It just doesn’t work. The camp-y stupid just looks really, really stupid and the stuff that’s supposed to have dramatic weight is hopelessly undermined.
So yeah, zOMG indeed. And no, I don’t apologise for spoilers. |
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| Lira |
Bond fan here, watched it last night, all I want to know is whether the white cat died. Please tell me it's not so! :(
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I feel aggrieved by some of the wildly positive reviews that lead me to believe it would be any good - the Guardian gave it five stars! |
That's because it's half daft, half relevant. You get Snowden-infused paranoia, which is relevant, and the good old James Bond larger-than-secret-life style. It's the feeling you get when you read Schopenhauer with happy hardcore playing in the background... And, believe me, this is a feeling I know all too well :D |
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| SYSTEM-J |
The whole Snowden thing was pretty thin, though, and far too simplistically rendered. Rather than try and add any understandable nuance to the challenges facing modern security services (say, by making C a bit of a dick but someone who ultimately has the safety of his countrymen at heart), the film lazily lapses into conflating surveillance with some global evil conspiracy to rule the world. Meanwhile, good old fashioned human agents are presented as infallible, because "a license to kill is also a license not to kill". I suppose we can chalk off all the dirty underhand various intelligence agencies have committed with human operatives over the last 60 years, then?
The whole "subtext" (and I use the "sub" part very leniently) is no better executed than when any other blockbuster ascends onto its high horse about some worthy issue or other. |
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