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Unison voice beating/phase issue
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Hobson
I've been learning to make trance and progressive house for the past few years, and have always encountered the same problem when creating sounds with unison, eg. plucked saw chords.

Every few stabs the voices align in a way that causes resonant peaks at certain frequencies, especially in the low end. I can't seem to correct this with EQ, as the frequency of the peaks vary throughout the part.

A workaround I have used is to record the part several times and manually piece together the best bits - but this takes forever, especially in automated sections, and only works for sounds with low polyphony.

Is there another way around this? I usually use sylenth for these types of sound - is there anything else that might be more suitable?

Cheers for any info.
soulstar606
post an audi0 example of your problem
DJ RANN
Yeah, you really need to post a sample. What you describe is just typical resonant peaks cycling at the same time. You can do automated eq and things like negative notches but when you have many of them, they often that takes so much out of the signal that what's left is pretty thin.

I worked on an Audi commercial where the composer had done this on purpose and while it was a cool effect, it was a bitch make it sit in the mix.
Hobson
as requested!

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/q2e...phase_issue.mp3

the effect is most noticeable at around 5 and 15 seconds
Constantin
Sounds like a cluster f#@k of resonant peaks, some careful EQing will get you rid of most of it but with the price of making your sound less imposing, at least from what I tried my self as a noob xD. Any chance to reduce some of it, prior to EQ, from tweaking some knobs on your synth?
MSZ
If you're just repeating the same chords you might as well resample a good stab or two. some people love errors in their work, its more organic.
soulstar606
put a compressor on it...
evo8
quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
If you're just repeating the same chords you might as well resample a good stab or two. some people love errors in their work, its more organic.


yeah in this case i would record the best parts - theres a deadmau5 thread on here if you search, where he does exactly this - think he is recording a Juno 60, it may even have been for faxing berlin
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