Originally posted by Woony
I absolutely love the sound desing and while it's definitely super polished, I don't think it sounds TOO clean.
I agree, the cleanliness part I mentioned was redundant, since I've nothing against clean. The sound design is great, I just wish the tracks as a whole were more developed, intricate, and spontaneous. Maybe I'm being a stickler, who knows. But then again, I do compare it with older (and other modern) techno/experimental.
Woony
Well, a lot of the stuff you like is live recorded/jam-like and these are the kinda tracks that were sculpted together over months.
AlphaStarred
Not at all, I like all sorts of stuff - whether recorded live, or not. Let the guy take a year to complete a track, for all I care - I only care about the result.
What I noticed from my own experience is that you can take however long as you want for a track - but some of the best final recordings were/are done live. That's why they sound so much more improvised and original. Although I don't think Swift Box was recorded live, but the structure and variation throughout is more complex and interesting than this release, for instance.
I especially feel since it supposedly took months to produce, more attention should've been given to the complexity and evolution of the final recording. But that's one of the problems with software - it can result in the opposite - more stagnation and contrivance.
AlphaStarred
I'm actually really enjoying B1 right now. This one may grow on me, yet. :p
rdevito
all the Vinyl Only releases. With that being said, Way is quite good.
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by Woony
And I don't think every techno track has to sound experimental and/or spontaneous.
And definitely don't agree about it being a chillout release. I've heard 'Way' played at Berghain a couple of times and it sounds monstrous on a system like that. Sure, it's not a peaktime banger but it's a perfect set closing track.
I'm sorry, I think I accidentally overlooked this post. You make a good point, and I imagine the track sounds great on a live system. I think it's a pretty good release, overall, I just think it could've been better with some more experimentation.
I think the same about Ascion's new track, Fraxtile. When I heard the SC sample, I was really psyched, but upon hearing the full track, it left something to be desired.
AlphaStarred
This is the kinda stuff I prefer, which was indeed done live. You can hear more improvisation, experimentation and less monotony, which is what I was talking about:
This one as well is a trip, from the same vinyl:
I think what I ultimately meant about this new Blind Observatory release is that, like a lot of modern techno and acid, it sounds too "perfect" and somewhat stale. One reason for this is definitely the use of software, I believe.
SYSTEM-J
Has anyone seen this guy DJ? He's playing in Leeds in a couple of weeks. If he keeps a spaced out edge to his sets I could be tempted, but I've little appetite for Serious Business Techno.
Woony
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Has anyone seen this guy DJ? He's playing in Leeds in a couple of weeks. If he keeps a spaced out edge to his sets I could be tempted, but I've little appetite for Serious Business Techno.
Quite a few times. I wouldn't call his sets overly "serious" but he plays a bit deep, stripped down and acid-y sometimes but he also often goes really trance-y and melodic. I guess it depends on what slot they've booked him for.
btw, the first two releases are now out digitally on Bandcamp, might interest you.
SYSTEM-J
He's headlining. It's a small club and the event isn't looking very busy on Facebook, so it'll probably be a more intimate affair. I might go down and just have a couple of drinks, depending on how late he's on.
SPANIARD
I'd go. He seems quite consistent with his sets that are posted online.
BTW what are the sound laws like over in Leeds as compared to say, London? I know a guy living in Toronto who is a fairly major psy trance act that travels globally and told me London sucks massively because of that (he said the last party he played he could whisper on the dance floor perfectly fine).
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by SPANIARD
BTW what are the sound laws like over in Leeds as compared to say, London? I know a guy living in Toronto who is a fairly major psy trance act that travels globally and told me London sucks massively because of that (he said the last party he played he could whisper on the dance floor perfectly fine).
Your friend is talking complete . There are no special laws regarding sound levels in clubs for London, or the UK in general. A particular club might have sound restrictions due to nearby residential properties, or it might just have a bad sound system, but the sound levels in London are no different to anywhere else, and I've been clubbing in four different countries. Fabric and Ministry Of Sound are widely regarded as two of the best sound systems in the world, and that's not because they're too quiet.
I don't know what it's like in Toronto, but over here psy events rarely take place in the same clubs as house/techno/prog events (or indeed, in clubs at all). They usually end up in cheaper or more unusual venues where the quality of sound can vary wildly.
