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Plastic surgery, anyone? (pg. 3)
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| Jon_Snow |
| No matter how you slice it, I think all cosmetic surgery is a joke whether it's fake boobs or getting "chopped". Unless you're disfigured or it's for medical purposes, there no reason to change the way you are. But that's the human condition. Give people the opportunity to fight the laws of nature and they can't resist. |
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| Silky Johnson |
I used to think so too. But who cares? Whatever a person needs to do to feel good about themselves, so be it. Additionally, some people really do have such body disfigurement or whatever that I can see how hard it would be to "just accept it." Some you just can't.
That said, I do think it's important for people to think critically about who/what/why/where their self esteem (or lack of it) comes from, and who/what/why benefits from buying into the entire cosmetic industry.
I have always been pretty vocal about what a joke/scam I think it all is, and I think it's a real shame that so many people don't realize how they are being manipulated by corporations that benefit from people feeling ty about themselves.
edit: sorry, I see you addressed the disfigurement argument. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Google image search "tuberous breasts". You better believe I'd be getting a really nice augmentation if that's what my looked like. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
I will probably pay for certain preventative surgeries like botox. I haven't researched it enough and i'm still young-ish. Also get certain skin impections lazered off.
it seems pretty standard granted it might just be the people i'm around.
Being healthy and eating well is probably 90% and the rest is to feed my insecurities. Being good looking is my only currency. |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Whatever a person needs to do to feel good about themselves, so be it. |
Yea, that's the thing. Everyone is looking outwardly for that instead of inward.
I just read about this today in Gabor Mate's In The Realm Of Hungry Ghosts. (I highly recommend this book!!!)
He references this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t/29/health.usa
Wonder what that 10-year-old figure is today (too lazy to Google). The cult of "young" body image :wtf: |
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| Silky Johnson |
I know the book, I recommended it here years ago when it came out, after I saw him speak on the tour he did to promote it and his work. ;)
And yeah that's my point, which is why I said I think it's important for people to think critically about what/why/where/how their self esteem comes from. The factors impacting it, etc.
There is so much garbage in the media and advertising poisoning people's minds, and I really think most people are too brainwashed by it to stop and think that there is an agenda to make them feel ty about themselves and; therefore, dependent on outward things like cosmetics, clothes, and whatever other superficial and material things to feel good.
I would love to do seminars or be able to teach people somehow about media awareness. Help slow down the machine that is blind consumerism and get people back to ing reality. |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
I know the book, I recommended it here years ago when it came out, after I saw him speak on the tour he did to promote it and his work. ;) |
Nice! I never saw that, and I think I've posted it here before, too.
I'm grateful to him for writing it. It's really sunk in for me.
Maybe that's a combination of where I'm at in my life and the information in it. I'm just thankful something's finally clicking.
I'm hopeful of the future, and I hope I can hear him speak one day :) |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
I would love to do seminars or be able to teach people somehow about media awareness. Help slow down the machine that is blind consumerism and get people back to ing reality. |
Do it! The world needs it now more than ever.
I have a long road ahead of me overcoming my own addiction, but I'm headed in the right direction and one day hope I can give back to those in the same boat I'm in today.
I'm encouraged and empowered by it more than I've been in my life. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Yeah I've talked often about him (Mate). I cannot describe what it was like hearing him discuss his ideas and work, live. There was so much clarity, so much understanding, so much compassion in every fibre of his thoughts and being. He is a special man doing important work. You know when you meet people that just have that aura about them? He has it. I was awestruck. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
While it's true that those late capitalist boogeymen - the media and consumerism - encourage insecurity and neurotic self-obsession, really they are as old as time. There's little point in denying that outward appearance is hugely important in this life. Everyone forms opinions on everyone else based on how they look, consciously or otherwise. Your appearance is not some arbitrary carapace, and there is a limit to how much your behaviour and character can override that.
It's totally normal to cut your hair, clip your nails, wear nice clothes and go to extensive lengths to correct your wonky teeth. Plastic surgery is only one expensive step beyond all that. If it were free, easy and produced perfect results, would you not have it done? |
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| OrangestO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Yeah I've talked often about him (Mate). I cannot describe what it was like hearing him discuss his ideas and work, live. There was so much clarity, so much understanding, so much compassion in every fibre of his thoughts and being. He is a special man doing important work. You know when you meet people that just have that aura about them? He has it. I was awestruck. |
:) |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
While it's true that those late capitalist boogeymen - the media and consumerism - encourage insecurity and neurotic self-obsession, really they are as old as time. There's little point in denying that outward appearance is hugely important in this life. Everyone forms opinions on everyone else based on how they look, consciously or otherwise. Your appearance is not some arbitrary carapace, and there is a limit to how much your behaviour and character can override that.
It's totally normal to cut your hair, clip your nails, wear nice clothes and go to extensive lengths to correct your wonky teeth. Plastic surgery is only one expensive step beyond all that. If it were free, easy and produced perfect results, would you not have it done? |
I don't think it isn't important. I didn't think it was implied that I was denying that by anything I said, either. But surprise surprise, you just HAVE to be argumentative. |
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