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So, who is satisfied by their university/college education? (pg. 2)
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skaborough fats
I'm satisfyed in that I graduated and now have the little piece of paper that employers are looking for. But I am disappointed with the ammount that I learned.

I went to Uni first, just a semester and a bit, so I have only a first year experience. There I just found everything really basic, but as I said I just have 1st year experience.

At college... maybe 5 out of 20 classes were worth the time. I knew most of the stuff already, because it was basic stuff. The more advanced stuff, the stuff we should have been focusing on, we just glossed over. Where's the fun in that?

But, I do have that little piece of paper... so I got what I needed. I cen get the information on my own if I need it. It would have been nice to get full value for my couple of grand, instead of cranky teachers who like mini power trips...

Cheers,
Fats
mariachickita
im at U of Waterloo and studying Enviromental Science...
anyhow I find the science program is alright..... what pisses me off is when 4 different people mark your stuff, especially when its four different TAs (teaching assistant that is,) and they give out different marks because they don't mark the same.:mad: so you end up getting a ty mark because you got the TA and your friend gets a wicked mark (even thought you pretty much did your lab together) because they got the easy TA. I guess its the same everywhere but Profs are paid $$$ to teach the crap, and they are the ones who know it best, so they should mark your damn assignments.....

Other than that, our school has promiced like a new gym and stuff..... i dont see a new gym? i pay $$ to work out somewhere else because there is only 6 cardio machines for 20,000 students :( and we finally got our new co-op building where we all had to pay and extra fee for, and i havent even got to use it yet

and illya is right, there are too many little fockers running around campus that are cheating their way through engineering or comp sci, - that isnt right....

k im done now, well sort of:whip:
NightCreature
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Originally posted by Durafei
With most of here on the board studying at universities/colleges, I'm just wondering what do you guys think of your program?

Are you satisfied with that you studying? Is it what you hoped for when you got into university/college?

I'm studying Comp. Science at the University of Waterloo. Up to couple of years ago and probably still, it was considered to be the best comp. science program in Canada. Lately, however, Waterloo started accepting way to many people, and as a result quality of courses have deteriorated. Courses have become much easier than before, which will eventually result in reputation of the school falling. I like my program, but I hate how a lot of people in the program get away with getting a degree doing virtually nothing(for instance the hardest and most essential part of the program is doing various projects in CS; however as it turns out
you don't even have to do them(they are only worth like 25-40% of the course) in order to pass the course). I don't really care how other people get their degrees, but where is my motivation to study, when you don't really have to in order to obtain the degree?


I'm very very happy with the comp sci program at UoW. How can you say that they are making the courses easier? It's absolutely not true! On the contrary they are making the program much harder, because there is just way too much competition! The plus side to the comp sci program at UW is that there is co-op! I wouldn’t be able to pay off my education without this marvel :).
Durafei
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Originally posted by NightCreature
I'm very very happy with the comp sci program at UoW. How can you say that they are making the courses easier? It's absolutely not true! On the contrary they are making the program much harder, because there is just way too much competition! The plus side to the comp sci program at UW is that there is co-op! I wouldn’t be able to pay off my education without this marvel :).


I don't want to bore anyone with details about UW, but I just have to give an example of how CS at Waterloo just got easier.
Nightcreature, consider CS 251 that I took(before it got changed) and the one that you took. Yours was at least twice as easy :D And I also heard rumours that they want to combine CS 342(concurrency) and CS 354(Operating Systems) into one course.
dEsidEL
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Originally posted by Porky
hey durafei...

you're going to have those kinds of kids in all programs. but i never regretted doing my undergrad at UWO (Western).

your degree is important. w/o my undergrad, i would not have been able to
1. work in the USA (you need a degree to get your TN1 Visa)
2. get into grad school (currently studying MIS at northwestern)

your future may be hazy and your motivation a bit low, but when you graduate and get your degree it'll be all worth it!

Pork


i agree .. my brother did the exact same thing. got his TN1 Visa after getting a degree in Electrical Engineering in TO, and now he's working down south ..

US Customs would have given him a VERY hard time if he didn't have a degree which is one of those reasons why sometimes goin to Uni is better than college .. i think it's easier to apply for work abroad.
AAzn_ScratcH
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Why oh why, DJ_Lord??

Me, I'm very happy with what I did in Ottawa and what I'm doing now in Toronto. I actually loved my 4 years at Carleton. It was a great school and great program. My program allowed me to take many different courses and choose my future direction. Now, I'm doing my Masters here at U of T and that is also very satisfying. You get to explore your own interests and directions. If you don't want to leave school I highly recommend going for your Masters and PhD.
As for the school U of T is kind of ty. Everyone seems distant and there is no real feeling of community like there was at Carleton. Maybe I was just brainwashed during Frosh week but I'm a die hard Carleton supporter.


what did you major in carlton?
i'm going there next year to get my B.A. (architecture)

was it hard to get in?
what did you get in with?
bluE_Neon
im taking computer programmer course with optional co-op at Seneca @ York Uni. the course is very interesting & fun, expect the fact that there just isn't enough time to cover everything. you can you cover the whole C language i just 3.5 months?? with people who aren't genius's its kinda hard and so it takes a longer time to understand. other than that, the teachers are fine here, expect my unix teacher, she puts the majority of the class literally to sleep :nervous:
so far i find my money's worth but this course wont really guarantee me a job noadays with somekind of degree...
Dr. Z
Durafei
I am not sure, but you are probably right, about the changes of course difficulties in computer science. But I dont think its the same for the whole University.

Like
When you look the mark requirements for engineering over the past years, they are getting higher and higher. Science as well. I know last year, to get into science you needed a low 80% average, but this year it was mid-80s. Ummm... why would they get more students into certain programs? who knows? maybe they just want more students... for more $$...

I'm only first year Physics at Waterloo, so I can't say how much/little satisfied I am with the program. But what I do know is that, what we are learning is very interesting, and what we will be learning will be even more interesting.
:happy2:



Random comment: If the people of the whole world walked in unicent to the [East], we would actually slow down the rotational velocity of the earth along its axis because of the torque that is provided by our feet on the ground.
So what would that do? Well, we could stop the earth from rotating and have a 6 month day and a 6 month night. :eek:
dEsidEL
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Originally posted by Dr. Z

Like
When you look the mark requirements for engineering over the past years, they are getting higher and higher. Science as well. I know last year, to get into science you needed a low 80% average, but this year it was mid-80s. Ummm... why would they get more students into certain programs? who knows? maybe they just want more students... for more $$...

Random comment: If the people of the whole world walked in unicent to the [East], we would actually slow down the rotational velocity of the earth along its axis because of the torque that is provided by our feet on the ground.
So what would that do? Well, we could stop the earth from rotating and have a 6 month day and a 6 month night. :eek:


it could be higher this year cuz of the double co-hort making fewer spaces in each program for acceptance..

and i love ur halt the Earth idea ! man one day someone has gotta campaign for that .. jokez !! :D
Dr. Z
Desidel

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Originally posted by dEsidEL
it could be higher this year cuz of the double co-hort making fewer spaces in each program for acceptance..

and i love ur halt the Earth idea ! man one day someone has gotta campaign for that .. jokez !! :D

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erikwh
...at U of T in engineering science. It is too much work for even the keenest of students, and tends to suck all the life out of oneself. U of T is too big to be considered a school. StereoPrincess I agree with you; there is not really any community feel here. Apart from the people I see every day in every class, I never randomly meet the same person more than once. It sounds like everyone here has bums copying assignments like mad. I get a laugh when two -identical- assignments get totally different marks, even when marked by the same TA!
DJ_Lord
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Why oh why, DJ_Lord??

Me, I'm very happy with what I did in Ottawa and what I'm doing now in Toronto. I actually loved my 4 years at Carleton. It was a great school and great program. My program allowed me to take many different courses and choose my future direction. Now, I'm doing my Masters here at U of T and that is also very satisfying. You get to explore your own interests and directions. If you don't want to leave school I highly recommend going for your Masters and PhD.
As for the school U of T is kind of ty. Everyone seems distant and there is no real feeling of community like there was at Carleton. Maybe I was just brainwashed during Frosh week but I'm a die hard Carleton supporter.


cuz it sucks, its an all boys school, now u might ask urself, wtf is he doin in a all boys school? simple. MY FATHER! :whip: so yeah i aint havin a good time! on top of that i HAVE to take religious courses which i dont find interesting at all! :whip: so now u see.. :(
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