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The unvacinated invade food court in staten island (pg. 2)
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| Midlothian |
| quote: | Originally posted by planetaryplayer
the nut jobs |
That's you Demoted |
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| Demoted |
| I think we can all agree that the holocaust was the Michael Jordan of genocides. |
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| planetaryplayer |
| another bill burr quote: 'when did hitler become the michael jordan of evil' then mentions stalin and mao who killed more |
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| Midlothian |
| American stand-up comedy is like watching a crowd cheer a double-decker bus full of elderly people careering off a bridge |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
I guess when you're already used to putting in your body to enhance music, you'll have no problem beta-testing a leaky mRNA gene therapy shot. |
If that's the thing you're afraid of, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson use an altogether different technology... and I'm saying that as someone whose "" I put in my body has pretty much just always been a little vodka and lots of latte, if that's also what you meant ;) |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
Looks like we're well on our way, what with all the willful participants already on board. I guess when you're already used to putting in your body to enhance music, you'll have no problem beta-testing a leaky mRNA gene therapy shot.
National Geographic article from 2015 about Marek's Disease
"Leaky Vaccines Enhance Spread of Deadlier Chicken Viruses"
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...chicken-viruses |
I 100% understand the fear of injecting an unknown chemical into oneself, but that really isn't the case here. While these are the first mRNA vaccines, mRNA itself goes back some 60 years or so. And when it comes to 'leaky' vaccines, the risk there is not to the people getting the vaccine, but those who do not get it. If you are worried about a leaky vaccine, you should absolutely get the vaccine! However, there is no evidence that the mRNA vaccines are, indeed, leaky.
It's absolutely natural to be sceptical and concerned about them, but they really are a big win on a cost/benefit analysis. Not too mention Lira's point, that many of the vaccines are not mRNA-based. |
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| Midlothian |
| Anyone got a booster already? |
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| Syntonic |
Thanks for your replies Lira and Lews and for not jumping on the hate train. I also want to apologize for my snarky comment about putting whatever in your body. It was a knee jerk reaction to the media portraying people not getting the vaccine as stupid or anti-vaxxers which are grouped into conspiracy lunatics now. I'm not against anyone getting the vaccine, but am against having no choice over my body.
My girlfriend who has been diagnosed with epilepsy in recent years refuses to get it and many people in her family are treating us like garbage with the belief that we are going to cause their vaccine to fail, even though fully vaccinated still can get sick and transmit the virus - less likely but still likely.
My biggest concerns are:
Why do these companies have liability protection if they stand behind their product?
The news keeps saying these vaccines have been approved but were just reauthorized for under Emergency Use and won't have FDA approval until a few more years?
Why do we have higher deaths from coronavirus this year than 2020 despite having the vaccines? |
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| planetaryplayer |
| america, yeah |
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| JEO |
| All I see is three JQs. |
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| Midlothian |
| Down here in the Netherlands there were/are quite a few people parading around at public protests wearing Yellow patches (you know, the star-shaped ones from WWII) because they considered themselves ViCtImS dIsCriMinAtEd against. A lot of them also seem convinced that the vaccinated go about 'shedding' spike proteins (or something like that), but one is inclined to wonder whether these people themselves shed IQ points everytime they take a breath. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syntonic
Why do we have higher deaths from coronavirus this year than 2020 despite having the vaccines? |
We were in heavy lockdown mode in 2020, with limited social gatherings. Once vaccines started rolling out, activities started opening up again under the assumption that some form of herd immunity would make things safer. What those in power failed to realize was just how many folks would steadfastly remain unvaxxed (or limit to just one dose), so cases spiked among the unvaxxed as a result, all the while still trying to avoid another economy-crippling lockdown.
Edit: Also, last year we were mostly dealing with the Alpha variant, whereas this year saw the rise of the far more contagious Delta variant. |
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