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Are older tracks better than newer tracks? (pg. 2)
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AlphaStarred
This was just released, and it sounds straight up like early 00's Prog:



There is plenty of good modern stuff and it's all ultimately subjective. I think nostalgia plays a big role in why a lot of people prefer older stuff, as well.
Sykonee
I'd like to see ANY modern 'toytown' attempts top this ten-tonnes of tuneage!

Dj Pluviose
I'll say older is still better any day. I havent thoroughly listened to the "new wave of old style tunes" I tried to give it a listen but I have not given it enough time to make a fair comparison. I consider late 80s - mid 00 to be "old school" although there was distinct different eras in between.
Midlothian
There is quite a bit of the older that only appears to sound better because of the way it was produced - the equipment used, production standards - and also because music producers in our fields of interest typically sampled loads of great sounds and plundered sound libraries (e.g. Eric Persing's Spectrasonics Distorted Reality libraries are *everywhere*).
JEO
The sample library aspect is interesting. I have a tendency to just stop listening to an artist if I notice they've used an unaltered sample, preset, or something I recognize from another track. Not entirely rational, I know, but it takes away a lot of "the magic of the art" when you know the production process has been something similar to a session on Dance eJay.

And here I am, dunking my field recorder in a remote lake after wrapping it in a plastic bag, wondering if I can later somehow mangle the underwater recording into nice background noise for a pad. If it wasn't so much fun, it would be depressing.

I wonder how much older music I could drop off of my lists if I knew that the magical sounding plucks came from a sample cd.

This is excluding hip-hop of course.
Midlothian
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Originally posted by JEO
The sample library aspect is interesting. I have a tendency to just stop listening to an artist if I notice they've used an unaltered sample, preset, or something I recognize from another track. Not entirely rational, I know, but it takes away a lot of "the magic of the art" when you know the production process has been something similar to a session on Dance eJay.


Cass & Slide - Opera is a nice one in that respect (or not so nice, for those of us emotionally involved).

Browsing those Distorted Reality libraries can be a bit like finding out Santa isn't real.
Lews
Hey, what's the source of that weird vocal howl sample that 95% of 90s trance tracks used?

Mattsanity
It's safe to say that this thread shouldn't exist. It's all subjective.
JEO
quote:
Originally posted by Midlothian
Cass & Slide - Opera is a nice one in that respect (or not so nice, for those of us emotionally involved).

Browsing those Distorted Reality libraries can be a bit like finding out Santa isn't real.


Damn it.

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Hey, what's the source of that weird vocal howl sample that 95% of 90s trance tracks used?



Don't know if it's what you meant specifically, but the style of singing at around 3:45 is popular in traditional Mongolian music. The style's also been used in some modern music.



SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Hey, what's the source of that weird vocal howl sample that 95% of 90s trance tracks used?


Malcolm McLaren - Buffalo Gals


Produced by the legendary Trevor Horn. That little bit at the start goes a long way when you pitch it and stretch it.

SYSTEM-J
Since we're turning Matt's thread into something educational, can any of you sample pack geeks source this very common sound effect used in a lot of millennium-era prog?

Audible at 3:00 in Breeder - Tyrantanic


Right at the start of 29 Palms - Touch The Sky


And at 01:40:32 in this Essential Mix by Circulation:


Plus loads of other places I can't recall right now.
Lews
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Malcolm McLaren - Buffalo Gals


Produced by the legendary Trevor Horn. That little bit at the start goes a long way when you pitch it and stretch it.


Right, I knew that. No idea how I forgot :wtf:

Thanks for the reminder!
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