what does that quote mean to you specifically im just wondering. when im reading the quote it seems open to interpretation.
extension of a human, what does that mean to you, and how does it relate to creating music, I wonder how you yourself are breaking it down. how it differs to what I'd break down that quote to.
sorry if I seem if im targeting you, my brain feels numb atm.
SYSTEM-J
Some fun facts from Deezer, who have an AI-detection programme that they claim has a 99.8% accuracy rating:
28% of all music now uploaded to Deezer is AI generated.
That 28% accumulates just 0.5% of all the streams on Deezer.
Up to 70% of those 0.5% of streams are fraudulent - IE: bots streaming bot-generated music to try to generate royalty payments.
Originally posted by Midlothian
Irony being that AI "art" is precisely that - an extension of the hoomans behind it.
I guess AI is not the death of human art, only the artist.
Really, my position of "no AI art" is quite indefensible. There's no logic to it, but I don't have a problem trying to defend it anyway. I'll continue to discourage AI use in all forms of art, even if my only argument is that I will shut my eyes and ears from anything I know is AI-generated. Maybe even AI dance music.
Years ago a younger coworker of mine asked me if I've considered eating our cats after they die. I replied negatively, and immediately from a neighboring cubicle a chorus of weird, faux-utilitarian disposable economic units chimed in about hypocrisy, totem-animals, optimization, yak yak. These guys are giddy about the possibilities of AI music. The current abundance of music is not enough for some. I've never been closer to ditching the whole software world and becoming a storage worker again.
(And when I mention AI, I specifically mean generative AI, not simple machine learning tools.)
Hyperborean
In the USA, an AI generated song has now topped the country music charts. Granted, it is the USA, and it is country music.
Sykonee
quote:
Originally posted by Hyperborean
In the USA, an AI generated song has now topped the country music charts. Granted, it is the USA, and it is country music.
Nashville country music is already some of the most canned, assembly-line mass produced generic genres in existence. That a computer could easily replicate and chart it is entirely expected.
Incidentally, I'm glad that, though not outright banning it, Deezer's at least making efforts to let listeners know what is A.I. on their streaming services, unlike some of the other major platforms who seem to do all they can to actively promote the slop. Gives me some peace that I made the right choice switching to them after ditching Spotify.
djthunderbird
I think that majority of the people dont really care how the music they consume is done. Same as with ultra processed food. For them music produced from a 3 sentence suno prompt gets the job done and helps them through the day.
For me, I couldnt be bothered to listen to such slop. I think I need a human being at the controls to make the creative decisions and make the small mistakes that make music interesting. Im totally fine with using AI tools in music production as long as its done by a human producer with a sense of direction. As soon as a machine takes that role over, I suddenly stop caring about the sound.
I think its a bit like the first few times when I saw well created AI images depicting interesting or funny scenes and I felt excited about it, but nowadays I really dont care. The same with excessive CGI action in movies. Superhero action scenes are about as interesting as watching paint dry. Or closer to our scene, back in the day I was super excited about beatmatching music and I revered dj's that could hold a transition for minutes. Nowadays with sync, the skill is obsolete, I really dont care how long the transition is as long as it makes musically sense and takes the set somewhere, which is a totally different (artistic) skill than the (purely mechanical) skill of beatmaching.
Im pretty sure that in the future AI produced music will reach a point where I cant tell by listening alone, but I will figure out what to do once that happens.
szm
good analogy on processed foods, seems very applicable.
I guess im starting to think about the dehumanization of art and media consumption in general but, art and media have always been getting more automated. I guess its the potential length of leap is what is significant. to what extent is it dehumanizing culture, or is it at all?
idk ill think about it a bit more, I only have so many brain cells left.
OrangestO
AI music is . Writing is not.
I'm an editor and use AI writing. When I write, I think of my work as so much more inferior. Weird perspective thing or something. I know my writing isn't bad, but AI's is so good. Especially when it comes to simple with the right prompts I feed it. And so fast.
Music, meh. Everything I've heard so far just doesn't do it for me.
I'll always carry a novel around in my mind. Prob work on it soon with what's happening. AI can't touch that form of writing yet. I'm def thinking how to pivot and fast.
SYSTEM-J
How can a man capable of such elegant formulations as "so much more inferior" have anything to fear?
OrangestO
Sounds good in a rap though.
OrangestO
On that note
AI music
JEO
Man, I have around 100 CDs of rap sitting behind me in a Ikea shelf, just rotting away. If I promised it'll make your writing even better, would you be willing to buy the collection for 500 euros? I'll mail it to you. You're a millionaire. Please, just buy it all. Each record has been played once or twice (if ripping one counts as playing).
Also, post your favorite non-afrofuturist, non-five-percenter, non-black-supremacist, normal-people rap music for me to hear.
(I hear this guy's from Toronto.)
Rap was the biggest thing to me as a kid, but I've put no thought as to how AI will affect rap. Not that there's much rap I'd listen to nowadays anyway, but I genuinely can't even start to guess whether I'd like AI-rap, and I will NOT Google it. Has anyone been brave enough to try?
