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Canadians going to iraq to act as human shields. (pg. 2)
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| Mosaic |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/iraq/anti_war_iraq.html
I think this is an incredibly brave and altruistic act, and i applaud these people for doing so.
This is what americans had to say about it:
Frank Tricario of Seattle, Washington: "The Canadian morons who have gone to Iraq as human fodder deserve to be blown up. Your nation is not under attack. We Americans will defend our people and will destroy any terrorist nation be it Iraq or whomever. Wake up Canada before your ass is blown up. Grow up and face this religious war."
Joseph Ames Jr., Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania: "'I'm not too scared,' Vandas told CBC News Online the day before she left. I think it will be a powerful experience.' It will be a powerful experience for this twit, alright. It will be the power of a 500 kg Smart Bomb landing on her apparently empty skull...."
Roy Patrick, Bakersfield, California: "It's too bad that so many misguided Canadians feel the need to physically involve themselves in opposition to our war against terrorism. Where were these folks when 3,000 people were murdered in New York? Saddam Hussein is a despot the world can, and should, do without. In the opinion of our leaders he is the head of the worldwide terror network...."
Norine Holland, Hampton, Virginia: "I am an American who had great respect for Canadians, having grown up in a border city and spent many, many hours in your country as a family member of hockey players and figure skaters. I hope Canada understands that Americans are FED UP with militarily defending your socialistic freedom, while you stab us in the back...."
Jeff Zeller, Washington, D.C.: "Each new day sees more and more Americans come to the realization that Canada is our enemy." |
definitely applause for those heading over to Iraq.
but on the other hand, look how much notice the US took of the 4 Canadian soldiers killed by friendly fire... |
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| Mosaic |
| damn, there's some good Canadian letters in there |
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| dr me |
| quote: | Originally posted by Izzy
this is a quote taken from that cbc article
see this is just what i dont get about the left wing view, they acknowledge a problem but yet dont give any solution to the matter other then 'doing nothing', furthermore they whine when a solution is presented.
the article stated that those participating it are 'anti-war' belivers. Just because you are anti war does not mean that war is not nessecary. thats like saying "i need to cross the ocean but im opposed to using a vehicle (plane, boat) to cross it", what are you going to do swim thousands of miles?
however i feel that these canadians would be relatively safe if they take up living inside civilian areas. if they were to stand ground at a military target i would see them as one in the same with the enemy.
instead of addressing the real problem, which i see as, the use of civilians as bodyshields in a war or reversally the use of military personal, equipment and/or orginization within civilian areas. how do we as a civilized society solve this. how do we punish those who commit such acts? surely not by siding with them! This is what i see those canadians doing. they are only hurting those who wish to actually deal with the problem instead of hurting those who cause the problem. |
you want a solution that does not involve war? all that is necessary (i think) is for the world to acknowledge these "terrorists" plight and help them out (what is their plight? something about being screwed by the world for the last few decades). ppl usually do bad things for a reason you know. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by dr me
you want a solution that does not involve war? all that is necessary (i think) is for the world to acknowledge these "terrorists" plight and help them out (what is their plight? something about being screwed by the world for the last few decades). ppl usually do bad things for a reason you know. |
When the squeaky wheel gets the grease, all the wheels will try to be squeaky.
You can't reward unacceptable behavior. If the terrorists were asking for help in a civilized manner, I'd say "sure, help them," but if we help them when their cries for attention manifest themselves in murder, all we'll succeed in doing is teaching everyone who would like to be helped to become a murderer.
Furthermore, they aren't as easy to help as you'd like to think: corrupt governments intercept aid meant for the people, and non-war mechanisms for overcoming this obstacle have failed almost unilaterally. |
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| Verona^My |
| wow, some real bonified traitors to the republic, their innocense is gone the moment they join the other side... Saddam Hussein is an evil warlord, & recently our local newspaper ran an article on how he sold VX gas to Al-Queda, providing further evidence of Saddam as a terrorist state. |
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| Verona^My |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
unregardless! :p
i find it somewhat strange that Canadians wouldn't think of directly involving themselves in a war by attacking the US as an ally of Iraq, yet getting in the way via the Middle East is commendable.
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haha, a quick capture of Toronto & Montreal will all but decimate any ridiculous attempt by Canada to attack the US, what kind of stupid people are you guys, Canada is in the NATO alliance, allies dont attack one another.
The war is completely in Saddam Husseins hands, and it seems like he's doing his best to get himself a war. We dont want to go to war, but if he doesn't cough up the WMD goods, we have no choice. |
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| Trance Plant |
Operation human shield...bah.
They must know something we don't. Afterall, nothing has begun.
Or, they know for certain Iraq has WMD and the eventual consequences that would bring to Iraq.
Saddam will be using them as shields. What does he care.
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| Busy Child |
| im sorry, but taking random quotes of ppl (possibly off the streets) doesnt justify anyting. |
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| quddha |
| quote: | Originally posted by Verona^My
The war is completely in Saddam Husseins hands, and it seems like he's doing his best to get himself a war. We dont want to go to war, but if he doesn't cough up the WMD goods, we have no choice. |
Haha, i just find that funny, cuz from the way I see it, George Bush is trying really hard to get a war. Just the picture of him in my head, saying "Well, I really don't want to do this, but I have no choice..." makes me chuckle. |
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| InfiniteSquare |
| thats plain ing stupid |
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| liquidxxd |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/iraq/anti_war_iraq.html
I think this is an incredibly brave and altruistic act, and i applaud these people for doing so.
This is what americans had to say about it:
Frank Tricario of Seattle, Washington: "The Canadian morons who have gone to Iraq as human fodder deserve to be blown up. Your nation is not under attack. We Americans will defend our people and will destroy any terrorist nation be it Iraq or whomever. Wake up Canada before your ass is blown up. Grow up and face this religious war."
Joseph Ames Jr., Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania: "'I'm not too scared,' Vandas told CBC News Online the day before she left. I think it will be a powerful experience.' It will be a powerful experience for this twit, alright. It will be the power of a 500 kg Smart Bomb landing on her apparently empty skull...."
Roy Patrick, Bakersfield, California: "It's too bad that so many misguided Canadians feel the need to physically involve themselves in opposition to our war against terrorism. Where were these folks when 3,000 people were murdered in New York? Saddam Hussein is a despot the world can, and should, do without. In the opinion of our leaders he is the head of the worldwide terror network...."
Norine Holland, Hampton, Virginia: "I am an American who had great respect for Canadians, having grown up in a border city and spent many, many hours in your country as a family member of hockey players and figure skaters. I hope Canada understands that Americans are FED UP with militarily defending your socialistic freedom, while you stab us in the back...."
Jeff Zeller, Washington, D.C.: "Each new day sees more and more Americans come to the realization that Canada is our enemy." |
the comments of these people are silly. i was reading it, but i had to read twice, because i was realizing that to get to saddam, they would kill many innocent people, in my political science class, it has a picture of a little girl wearing a scarf and it says, would you take her life to get to saddam? all they can think about is killing saddam, when there are many innocent lives that will be taken. i think the canadians are being very altruistic not like these stupid people making comments, i am not sure if there are anymore comments, but i am sure there are, they should post some people that support the canadians, not everyone who is against. in the media at its best to rally the public for war |
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| quote: | Originally posted by liquidxxd
the comments of these people are silly. i was reading it, but i had to read twice, because i was realizing that to get to saddam, they would kill many innocent people, in my political science class, it has a picture of a little girl wearing a scarf and it says, would you take her life to get to saddam? all they can think about is killing saddam, when there are many innocent lives that will be taken. i think the canadians are being very altruistic not like these stupid people making comments, i am not sure if there are anymore comments, but i am sure there are, they should post some people that support the canadians, not everyone who is against. in the media at its best to rally the public for war |
I respect what they're trying to do, but their altruism is short-sighted. Even if they could somehow preserve a few lives in the present, they would be contributing to the oppression of countless future generations of Iraqi civilians - denying them the opportunity to grow up in a society characterized by liberty, not oppression. Absolutely everything we have achieved as a species has been built on the sacrifices of our ancestors, many of whom, voluntarily or otherwise, gave their lives serving a purpose greater than themselves. If we have indeed reached a level of cowardice and selfishness that we cannot do the same for future generations... then perhaps the demise of the human species has already begun. |
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