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Piracy laws w/ live sets??
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| stringfelowhawk |
| Ok, my school recently cracked down on pirated mp3s and made everyone delete them... even seized a few of the major offenders' computers. Obviously with single tracks that are on an artists album, legally you must buy the album to have the rights to own the mp3. However, does anyone know how these laws apply to live sets? My thinking is that since they are usually just recorded at the venue or via internet radio, and most aren't available to purchase on a CD for example, it would be ok to have them as the artist can control who records his sets. Anyone have any concrete ruling on this? Thanks. |
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| arj1o1 |
| i thin k they're illegal too, the songs the dj plays in the set have copyright on them, even if they're mixed! |
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| Spin Doctor |
| Indeed they are illegal. However the school wont be too clued up on the legal technicalities of DJ Sets/Live Broadcasts so I’d try bluffing them, making up some overly technical response and saying that live sets are ok. You’ll probably get away with it if you keep your cool. |
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| webmeister |
Yeah live sets are legal for the DJ as a nightclub is still considered "private"
But to distribute without the original material is illegal. According to record companies anyway :rolleyes: |
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| stringfelowhawk |
| That's kind of ty considering there is no way you can buy the sets. Lord knows I would for some sets out there. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| What do you mean by your school cracking down? Is it high school, or college? Is the computer yours, or the school's property? If it's not yours, then technically they can take off anything they deem offensive at any point in time. If this is your computer, and unless you have child porn or something prosecutable like that on your computer, then you can kindly tell them to shove a finger up their bunghole, legally speaking of course. |
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| stella |
Legally speaking it is illegal to copy/own/distribute live sets. Just as it is to record TV to tape and copy/own/distribute.
The school is acting within the law. As a school they are vicariously libal for the actions of it's students and their use of the computer systems provided for educational purposes. If they don't take actions to prevent downloading, distribution and the storage of any copyrighted material then they are consenting to acts of piracy and are again liable. (oh and if they ask or tell you to download copyrighted material, this is then connivance and are liable again)
While you identified MP3's music. This should also include all things like video clips, images, e-book, fonts, software etc.
Stella |
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| stringfelowhawk |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
What do you mean by your school cracking down? Is it high school, or college? Is the computer yours, or the school's property? If it's not yours, then technically they can take off anything they deem offensive at any point in time. If this is your computer, and unless you have child porn or something prosecutable like that on your computer, then you can kindly tell them to shove a finger up their bunghole, legally speaking of course. |
Oh how I wish I could. Unfortunately for my musical interests, I go to West Point and they pretty much can dictate stuff like that cuz it's on a government network and they have all rights to starve my music fancies.
I see your from Kansas City, I'm from St. Joe (just an hour north) but go to school out here in NY. I'll be home from Dec. 23- Jan. 3rd, don't know of any parties going on back in the area do ya? |
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| stringfelowhawk |
| quote: | Originally posted by stella
Legally speaking it is illegal to copy/own/distribute live sets. Just as it is to record TV to tape and copy/own/distribute.
The school is acting within the law. As a school they are vicariously libal for the actions of it's students and their use of the computer systems provided for educational purposes. If they don't take actions to prevent downloading, distribution and the storage of any copyrighted material then they are consenting to acts of piracy and are again liable. (oh and if they ask or tell you to download copyrighted material, this is then connivance and are liable again)
While you identified MP3's music. This should also include all things like video clips, images, e-book, fonts, software etc.
Stella |
what is that pic in your avatar from? very cool picture |
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| stella |
| sorry, dunno, I downloaded it of a softcore models site. it's a cool pic though I've clipped it down quite a bit. pm me your email and I'll send you the full size unclipped pic. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | | Oh how I wish I could. Unfortunately for my musical interests, I go to West Point and they pretty much can dictate stuff like that cuz it's on a government network and they have all rights to starve my music fancies. I see your from Kansas City, I'm from St. Joe (just an hour north) but go to school out here in NY. I'll be home from Dec. 23- Jan. 3rd, don't know of any parties going on back in the area do ya? |
Sucks about your school. I can understand though. In terms of parties, not much to ride home about. Dec. 21, a place called the Kabal is having Astroglyde late night from 3-6 AM, although that's before you're coming. Christmas night, Club XO is having Christmas Massacre II. Local DJ's, plus jungle DJ ODI from NY. You can check it out here:
Christmas Massacre II
For NYE, no one knows really what's going on. Nothing organized. I'll likely be going with the Mrs. and friends to either Aqua to hear Steve Thorell and DeMatteo, or nothin' at all. Really wanted to roadtrip to St. Louis to see Dave Aude at Velvet spinning DJMixed.com's newest live mix CD, but don't have the $ for that. Went to his show in St. Louis 2 yrs. ago for NYE, and it was incredible. Worth the measly $40. Get there if you have a chance. I think tickets are still available. You can check it out here:
Club Velvet - St. Louis
Hope that helps. |
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| Swamper |
It's pretty much a grey area - were it not for the livesets in mp3 format the majority of us would not really have a clue who these DJs are or what they spin - not to mention we wouldn't really know what track was what as easily - and in turn there would be little demand for them (especially the newer DJs without popular albums/compilations) to come from overseas and spin a gig.
Then you have people like this selling sets on Ebay and getting away with it. :whip: |
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