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Yes.. our scene is changing - the end of Ravestar... & salute to Tiesto
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| dEsidEL |
wells.. i was on the Liquid Adrenaline site today (yes another ghost town of the old Toronto rave movement) and I decided to click on the Ravestar link just for the heck of it to see what was up and this is what i found:
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http://www.ravestar.com/
A Chapter Ends - Ravestar 1998-2003
It's never an easy thing to say goodbye. We reached a turning point in the road. There was a time when disco was king. As disco grew old it eventually faded away into happy memories, replaced by the powerful energy of new wave. Life is funny that way, so cyclical. Times change and styles re-evolve. A new culture is emerging into 2003. A sound we must experience to understand. We have no choice but to move forward into the coming Electro Wave movement. The Rave has ended, but we live on...
Founded in November of 1998, Ravestar Jewellery started the humble journey from grass roots to having designs and business processes modeled after worldwide. Things began to take off in 1999 with a new fangled web site and a name change. Ravestar.com rose out of reeds and into the spotlight in March of 2000. The company took a huge risk and booked an unknown DJ from Amsterdam. The event was so outrageous, the party so wild that if the world had ended, we would have danced right on thru. The DJ you ask?...
It was a proud moment for me to receive an email today, December 5th 2002, from the number one DJ in the world, DJ Tiesto. Ravestar.com was the first to book him in North America. He rocked our world. There will never be another performer like him. It is with great enthusiasm that we welcome Tijs back to Toronto for one of the last big parties of the year 2002. In with a bang, out with a bang. I hope you will join us as we celebrate on December 13th in Montreal and December 14th in Toronto Canada.
Here are some of the people that shaped the identity of The Ravestar Group over the past 4 years. Thanks to: Michelle M(aka Mia, founder), Michael K(founder), Dan, Krista S, Jamie R, Melissa P, Agata K, Brad Smith, Andre Z, Laura C, Jeff, Darryl P, Justyna K, Lil' Nicole, Heather M, Nicole M, Yvonne M, Nathalie S, Eric P, Brent W, Christina C, Beth D, Jake J, Damion Brown, Mona S, Jen, Jay, Darren, and the final staff member to be hired Teresa M. There is one final extra special thank you.
To Eva. The real driving force behind us all. The reason for all my effort.
Shawn P.
Former C.E.O. & Webmaster
The Ravestar Group
"One vibe, many stars!"
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it's very sad in many ways. and a lot of the stuff said there does hold relevancy. I wasn't old enough to be in disco clubs back in the late 70's but I kind of see the parallels here. We're definately drawing close to a movement and changing into a 'superclub' type of scene now. It's sad in many ways cuz a lot of the great parties of old were from then and a new generation is here with many TA's who just started partying this year. Hopefully these new people will help to create a new scene founded on the ideals of the old scene. Remember PLUR? A lot of us laugh at the thought of it and the word 'cheez' often comes to mind. Yes drugs are just as rampant today at Guv as they were 5 years ago in the BLC. But sometimes many of us often forget that what PLUR stands for was exactly the kind of vibe that we always wanted to see at those Guv parties but never had a chance to. Wells who knows, maybe someday .. :( |
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| trancearmada |
dude u made it sound like the whole electronic dance music movement is dead! and that's not true, don't put us all into the depression. There are always slow downs as winter comes but just wait until after the Miami and electronic music will be back to life and breathing!
I dunno if what I just wrote makes sence but that's the way I feel! |
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| E*Master |
| Man, Desidel, u sound almost as bad as I did in 1996 when RAVE that I enjoyed died back in 96. Cheer up, Trance is not Dead and it won't if we don't let it die. |
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| Tudo Beleza |
| From what dEsidEL posted i do not think he means trance is dead per say, just that is has evolved, that he is said to see that scene die. But i doubt trance will die, just change and grow, it has come a long way since i started listening in 99, and it has a lot way to go, music chnages over time as we change over time, so yah, don't be sad, be happy. Like in Harry Potter, the phoneix must die for it go rise again. |
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| dEsidEL |
tru .. it does sound sad.. but that'z becoz i AM sad. :( and i never said 'trance' was dying , just that our whole scene was changing. Over the last year and a half , i would say since the end of 2000.. a dozen or so of the old rave promoters in TO have officially started shutting down since being on like a year of hiatus. i just found that to be kinda disappointing, cuz it's just a cause of the inevitable changes that are undergoing in our city especially with Guv taking over and all the bylaw matters..
a lot of us don't even realize that a lotta these 'super' DJ's first played in Toronto at raves thrown by some of the city's oldest promoters. the fact that losing these promoters and having places like Guv bring in DJ's now isn't the point, it's that a lotta us who are just getting into the scene now, will never have touch with the kind of vibe that those older parties tried to carry. Money wasn't always the mindset then but definately you can see how it can be now. so please don't think of this as a complaint/rant or anything, just more like a comment on the passing of a 'movement' and the transition into something new.. |
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| E*Master |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
tru .. it does sound sad.. but that'z becoz i AM sad. :( and i never said 'trance' was dying , just that our whole scene was changing. Over the last year and a half , i would say since the end of 2000.. a dozen or so of the old rave promoters in TO have officially started shutting down since being on like a year of hiatus. i just found that to be kinda disappointing, cuz it's just a cause of the inevitable changes that are undergoing in our city especially with Guv taking over and all the bylaw matters..
a lot of us don't even realize that a lotta these 'super' DJ's first played in Toronto at raves thrown by some of the city's oldest promoters. the fact that losing these promoters and having places like Guv bring in DJ's now isn't the point, it's that a lotta us who are just getting into the scene now, will never have touch with the kind of vibe that those older parties tried to carry. Money wasn't always the mindset then but definately you can see how it can be now. so please don't think of this as a complaint/rant or anything, just more like a comment on the passing of a 'movement' and the transition into something new.. |
Nah I do not think u are ranting ;) as well I beleive I misunderstood some of what u said. But yes, local promotions are outdone by brandname DJs that places like guv bring in. Local talent tries hard to compete with that kind of venue but ultimately, most of the time the big clubs win. It's all about the money now. Big DJs = Big $$$.
That is what I am sad about. |
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| Silver Wolf |
Hi Desidel and evereyone else. This is one of the most interesting posts because I have been thinking about the same thing all weekend, including while I attended Tiesto - Live @ KH Toronto, Canada.
We must understand that Desidel is speaking about the old scene. The days we could party in a warehouse somewhere near a streetcar junction down the stairs underground, with nothing but walls, pillars, floor, rooms with couches, aquariums, cats and a DJ. Those days were disappearing even before the police started cracking down on raves.
Those days bring back memories of big events like Hulabaloo and small parties like the one I just described wich i attended some time around 1998 off Keel and St. Clair. (not to mention it was nice being able to party closer to the west end since that is where I live. I will miss those days aswell. However there are new days now and it is time to make new memories as always :)
The changing face of the electronic music scene was displayed on Saturday nite at KH with Tiesto. The crowd probably the biggest change with its pros and cons. The good thing is that the crowd is more diverse, but with diversity comes things that not everyone likes. As far as I am concerned, Trance deserves to be played at major clubs, and im glad it is.
On the otherhand I am disappointed in the fact that many people come to Trance parties/events for the wrong reasons. If you want to get loaded and run after girls with your dress shirt untucked, please go to Plastique, or even better, please go back in time to 1994 when the GINO scene was big.
As a Trance fan, I can't stand the attitude that I am seeing these days. I enjoy myself at clubs like System Sound Bar, because for the time being people who attend the club, arrive with a pleasant attitude, a non-judgemental one and they come mainly for the music.
Once people start attending for other less pleasant resons and become more judgemental, then all clubs will have an ugly soul.
I am sure there are places where we can find trance parties or any parties like the good old days Desidel, maybe not in Toronto, maybe somewhere else, but that vibe cannot disappear or fade away. The soul is immortal, and once that one was created it is here to stay.
Toronto is a great place but in the process of great change, hopefully good change. As for the Trance scene, lets be thankfull for the great parties we still do have, regardless of the unwanted weeds, lets enjoy the central theme, have a good time :)
Trance is a place to feel free and relaxed and like no one is judging you. A place where you TRANScend the rest of society...
Don't be afraid, take the dive into the new scene, just beware of the scary places and know who your REAL friends are! |
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