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Thinking of buying a new MD... (pg. 2)
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| DJ Arsalan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Okay, the MP3 recorder can transfer at the same speed, it has the same frequency responce, and it CAN record from any live source through ITS line in and does NOT require a PC to record music from.
So the only advantage is that you can edit tracks on the fly and price. Big whoop, I can record over an over again. The two MP3 players I was talking about have 10X-20x the capacity of the MD disks, and you don't have to buy or carry around those discs. It's all internal. You can't subject your HD to the physical damage that you can a disc. And even if the cheaper MP3 recorder does require a PC, most people have them anyway...at least everyone in this forum discussing this topic does. So then you can use your PC to edit your music. The software that is available for that purpose is MUCH better than anything you can do on an MD.
When purchasing a recorder, you basically have to think about what you want it to do and what you already have that can perform the funtions you want to do too. Sure price is a factor, but I just found a 10Gb for $149 and a 20GB for $225. The 10GB has 10 MD discs worth of capacity and if all you really want to do is use it for recording live sets, then you have 55h instead of broken up 5 hour segments. What if you are recording an entire party? You'd have to have segmented discs etc.
Anyway, I'm not saying that MP3 records rule and MDs suck, I'm saying that MP3s are just as good for most purposes and they can dual as a 10GB hard drive if you want to transfer data. That makes it just as versital if not more than an MD recorder. |
i think you just changed my mind about MD's :D |
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| DJ Arsalan |
oh wanted to ask you is the Mp3 player really heavy
im use to old cd players which weigh a ton but with a hard drive inside is it that heavy ? |
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| JohnSmith |
I have owned both, so i feel i should weigh in with my opinion. First i bought this:
I LOVED IT. it was great for recording music, it had an analog line in, so i could record right out of my mixer. It also had digital transfer, so i could put my music library on it. It had a huge screen for picking your music, that showed you the title, album, allowed playlists, etc. I got the smallest one, 6Gb, but still, that's tons of space. it was very flexible, lots of good options, even pitch control ffs! (albeit really ty pitch control)
However, the software sucked, it was slow and clunky, and tried to take over my computer. The recording was good, but only recorded in .wav format, so you had to record to wav, download to computer, convert to mp3, and upload back to the player to get the full advertised 100 hours of advretised recording capability.
There were "updates" that needed to be done, which didn't always make it any better. For instance, one update took the recording, and split them into new files every 10 minutes. so then you download to computer, and it's a bunch of 10 minute mp3s! not cool for recording mixes.
I think that some of the newer "updates" may allow recording directly into mp3, but i am not sure.
the headphones of course, sucked ass, but they were able to drive my DJ cans quite well.
But, the ultimate reason i took it back, was size, and fragility. It would die if you shook it too much, just turn off, at which point you have to wait through a long bootup process. it was also too huge and clunky to carry around while dancing, snowboarding etc.
so, i took it back and bought this:
it doesn't have quite as many features, but i like it more. I CAN record directly from an analog source, the jack autodetects and will take optical or analog. pretty neat eh? i think all the sony MDs are like this, mine is bottom of the line and it does it.
the batteries last FOREVER, like weeks on a single AA.
the recording quality is good, not AS good as the mp3, but still good enough.
it's great having MDs, i have tons recorded with all my favorite sets, and it's so easy to just pop one in.
but the best part, it's SO portable, smaller than a pack of cigs!
my verdict? both are good, MD is better, unless you want to just sit around in one spot listening to mp3s |
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| DJ Arsalan |
Hey johnSmith, i havc the same one in front of me right now, but it's not mine just borrowd from my friend to check recording and it seems fine but the only bad thing with that model is the slow transfer from PC to MD. And also whenever i want to put the mix on my comp, (play and connect to line-in in my PC) the volume is so low i don't know why, i used creative sound record, sound forge 5 i just dont know.
I don't want to add 6db gain everytime i record and playback on my comp...
if somethings is scrrewd up and i can fix it please let me know. |
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| bachatu |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Arsalan
Hey johnSmith, i havc the same one in front of me right now, but it's not mine just borrowd from my friend to check recording and it seems fine but the only bad thing with that model is the slow transfer from PC to MD. And also whenever i want to put the mix on my comp, (play and connect to line-in in my PC) the volume is so low i don't know why, i used creative sound record, sound forge 5 i just dont know.
I don't want to add 6db gain everytime i record and playback on my comp...
if somethings is scrrewd up and i can fix it please let me know. |
MDs dont have line out... so im assuming u are using the headphone output to put through line in of your sound card... thats why its so low
The headphone out is not to be used as line out... you really cant put stuff on to your pc from you md... its really made to receive, not to send, cause they did not include a line out. Unless, you can put through an amp first, then to your sound card, but that is something else |
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| bachatu |
| quote: | Originally posted by club4life
NOT TRUE! Just last week I recorded about 3 hours on new vynil on MD by plugging my portable MD directly into my mixer using a 3.5 to RCA adapter cable that I got from Radio Shack years ago. Even though my MD input says "optical" on it, it still worked perfrectly. Mine is model preceeding th ecurrent 707. |
cool! my bad then.. hey thats even better .. i honestly did not know that the line in was both optical and normal for the MD. Usually, in electronic components (receivers, mixers), you have a specific input/output, either analog or optical (digital), and the MDs have listed "optical"...but thats real cool. I cant wait to buy one,.
And John Smith, that Sony MZ-R500 MD looks nice! that model we dont carry at the store. |
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| JohnSmith |
well, the MD i have is the most BASIC sony you can get i think, and it still rocks.
as for line out, no it doesn't have one, but the headphone out works well. I put the headphone out into the line in of my soundcard, and it works great. yes, it is a little quiet, but i can just normalize it after using sound forge.
honestly, it's the perfect tool |
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| JohnSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
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some ing bitch just stole it. may they rot in hell. |
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| shao |
OMFG! someone stole your md player? for real?
:nervous:
:eek: |
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| hapamoto |
ok sorry i didn't read this whole thread, but i wanted to just talk about the MD cuz i've had it and love it for a while now. ok i have a sony mz-r909, this was a japanese model a year ago and i don't think they ever sold it here in the states, this was right before they came out w/ netMD and its USB connectivity... guess i lost out on that one.. so anyways the reason i got it was because back then, of the sony MD's, none of them had digital inputs but this 909 from japan did and so i bought it (about $275 but it retailed for $350). anyways i got screwed cuz i knew nothing about optical inputs at the time but my mixer doesn't have optical out.. however, my friend's djm600 does have optical out but i never bothered trying to see if it works, mainly cuz my soundcard doesn't have an optical input so it would be useless (remember, no USB at the time)..
anyways, the main point is that I record from my mixer's "rec out" RCA to my sony MD w/ one of those Y-cables (has a red/white RCA on one end and a 1/8" stereo jack on the other). From there i use a stereo 1/8" to 1/8" cable to go from my MD to the "line in" on the computer. yes i know it may not be digital, but hey, my recordings come out bad ass, and you probably couldn't tell the difference if it where recorded analog or digital unless u ran it through some programs and visually scoped out the signal.
however, it doesn't really matter cuz as long as u have USB, u should be fine because i think all the sony MD's have USB capability. just know that it doesn't matter if u can't record digitally through optical cables onto ur MD from ur mixer, just use the RCA to stereo Y-cable and it will still sound just as badass. |
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| JohnSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by shao
OMFG! someone stole your md player? for real?
:nervous:
:eek: |
yes, someone stole it, along with some sweet brand new sony headphones, a rechargable battery, and a kick ass 4 hour mixed set on MD by DJ Ganja |
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| Rememberence_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith:
some ing bitch just stole it. may they rot in hell. |
What a ing . That sucks mate :(
| quote: | Originally posted by Bachatu:
MDs dont have line out... so im assuming u are using the headphone output to put through line in of your sound card... thats why its so low |
I'm not certain that this applies to the 505 or the 707, but my MZR900 (a japanese model that wasn't released in the states) allows you to select the output level of the headphone jack; you can choose in a menu whether you want the output to be "line out" or "headphone". I would have thought, seeing as the 505 and the 707 are newer models (the mzr900, like the mzr909, was one of the last sony models not to feature NetMD - USB 32x recording), that you could choose line level output if you needed to. |
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