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| kirbtastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
youve got a basket filled with 100 balls. 99 of them are red, 1 of them is blue. You randomly pick a ball. Of course the chance of it being a red one arent 50% but 99%, although there are only two choices/colors. |
yes, but when u stick ur hand in the bucket u will pick up a red ball or a blue ball. only 2 outcomes.
1.the ball in my hand is blue [true or false]
2.the ball in my hand is red [true or false] |
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| kirbtastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by InsomnEac
when you say 50/50, you're referring to the chances (probability) of either outcome. so no, it's not a 50/50 chance. you can say there are two possible outcomes, that's it. |
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
... i agree thanks insomneac |
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| TranceGiant |
yeah but its kinda stupid cause ultimately everything(!) can be asked in such a "dualistic" 50/50 manner. I mean.."wil there be 40 degrees tomorrow?" is a pure yes or no question but in the context of asking it in mid-europe, in January you'll get a very low probabilty.
other such SO-called-50/50-questions questions:
Will Ian van dahl's next tack be sophisticated?
Is britney spears still a virgin?
Will the US attack Iraq?
Does a bear in the woods?
Shouldnt I go to sleep instead of writing pointless posts at 3 am?
good night :thepirate |
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| Trance_Nut |
| quote: | Originally posted by kirbtastic
yes, but when u stick ur hand in the bucket u will pick up a red ball or a blue ball. only 2 outcomes.
1.the ball in my hand is blue [true or false]
2.the ball in my hand is red [true or false] |
To me it is sounding like you are make an arguement that you think is right.
Yes you dip the hand in to get the ball and it is one or the other.... that is if you are successfull after 2 tries. but the odds are not in your favor!!!
I am done arguing tho.... you dont wanna budge on your stance and dealing mentality like this on a daily basis isnt what i call 'being at home relaxing'
So believe what u wanna believe bud.... you are one against many
or in your words you or we are:
right [true/false]
wrong [true/false]
lookie there!! 50/50 chance! |
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| kirbtastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance_Nut
To me it is sounding like you are make an arguement that you think is right.
Yes you dip the hand in to get the ball and it is one or the other.... that is if you are successfull after 2 tries. but the odds are not in your favor!!!
I am done arguing tho.... you dont wanna budge on your stance and dealing mentality like this on a daily basis isnt what i call 'being at home relaxing'
So believe what u wanna believe bud.... you are one against many
or in your words you or we are:
right [true/false]
wrong [true/false]
lookie there!! 50/50 chance! |
lol...no i agree i was wording it incorrectly .... with stuff like these questions there are only two possible outcomes, no matter what the chances of one of those outcomes happening is ... i was wrong by using the 50/50 statement ... thanks again to Insomneac |
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| TiestoInTheMix |
| quote: | Originally posted by kirbtastic
yes, but when u stick ur hand in the bucket u will pick up a red ball or a blue ball. only 2 outcomes.
1.the ball in my hand is blue [true or false]
2.the ball in my hand is red [true or false] |
technically, yes. but each of the true/false outcomes has a different chance of happening, therefore we say the outcome of each ball(assigned the probability of "true" for that ball) is not 50% |
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| kewlness |
ugh... reminds me of math 12...
anyways...
there are 2 possible combinations in total...
event A. Hitting the jackpot
event B. Not hitting the Jackpot
There are equal amounts of different events and that is true...
However... you cannot say it is 50/50 because 50/50 in mathematical terms means that there is 50% in getting one event and 50% in getting another event.
probability is defined as : (the number of favourable outcomes) / (the total number of outcomes) *assuming the outcomes are equally probable
so therefore... the chance of hitting the jackpot is defined as:
1/13 million and something
on another note...
wow... didn't know there were so many smart TA's on here :D |
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| kirbtastic |
| ok for the last time...i wasnt looking for the probility that the ticket was a winner ..... i was making a point that the ticket can only have two outcomes, winner or loser. i worded this incorrectly by saying 50/50 (i made the mistake). thank you everyone for your input :) |
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| Trancealot |
ok I been checking this thread out my conclusion
Something that is impossible or that will happen is a 50/50 chance and you can say that about anyting. (it will happen or not)
50/50 theory-----
ball went in hole, ball did not go in hall
I thurned into a cricket, I did not turn into a cricket
But an outcome of something impossible or possible coming out in a favor you want(winning the lottery, having Chirsitna A at your door step,playing with freakin mokey's in a zoo) has that 1 out of 10000000000 whatever amount or 0 because then it can't happen
outcome of it happening because I want it to-----
want to turn into a cricket....0 but you can say so its 50/50
christina ag at my door step....1/100000
winning lottery......1/6 million
play with monkey....1/1000000000 |
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| kirbtastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancealot
ok I been checking this thread out my conclusion
Something that is impossible or that will happen is a 50/50 chance and you can say that about anyting. (it will happen or not)
50/50 theory-----
ball went in hole, ball did not go in hall
I thurned into a cricket, I did not turn into a cricket
But an outcome of something impossible or possible coming out in a favor you want(winning the lottery, having Chirsitna A at your door step,playing with freakin mokey's in a zoo) has that 1 out of 10000000000 whatever amount or 0 because then it can't happen
outcome of it happening because I want it to-----
want to turn into a cricket....0 but you can say so its 50/50
christina ag at my door step....1/100000
winning lottery......1/6 million
play with monkey....1/1000000000 |
u completely lost me here ... i think u took the right road instead of the left road in your avatar :) |
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| Trancealot |
I can say yes or no to anything thats 50/50
but winning the lottery is not because thats not a yes or no descion
thats not a win or lose situation. its not just you playing. Many other people play and now its larger than 50/50 chance anyway
if you play the lottery once and lose then you play again and win then you had a 50/50 chance of winning
some people play their whole lives and never win ..is that 50/50 chance |
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