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"Old Europe"
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Eugene
Last week Donald Rumsfeld dismissed Germany and France as "old Europe."

"France has been a problem, Germany has been a problem... But see, when you think of Europe, you think Germany and France. I don't. That's old Europe. The center of gravity has shifted to the east."

The German and French media & officials were very angry.
ahlamalek
Rumsfeld is a hawk, he will say anything to get his way.

in other words, he's an idiot.
LiquidX
Rumsfeld is dummer then Bush with a comment like that. Funny part is, BRITAIN is even older then those two countries, yet, they are allies to the USA. Wanker Rums! .. he thinks that whatever the USA wants to do , everyone else has to agree . :whip:
JM
hmmm......i dont think so.

>JM<
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