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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Define "at the same time".
If we could see a civilization orbiting a star 2 billion light years away, we see their civilization as it would have existed 2 billion years ago from our position (no perfect observer). Thus, the civilization we see (2 billion years old), if they were to look out into our part of the universe where the "light-lag" is still 2 billion years (that is they see 2 billion years into their past) they are seeing our planet as it was 4 billion years ago. If the civilization we see is three billion years old, they wouldn't know that we existed.... they literally couldn't see us because - from their perspective, we haven't come into existence yet.
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after readin it 8 times i still dont get it. their time- position, our time-position, why's that relevant? There are two oranges and a line connecting them. Orange A sees orange B like orange B sees orange A. A 2 billion year lag is a 2 billion year lag, so if we see them with delay x, why's their delay 2x ? Why does it add up? |
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| DJ Mikey Mike |
| If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? :o |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? :o |
Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though).
And the answer I got was:
The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place.
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| XxremedyxX |
| oh yea well my friend can still clap with one hand :tongue2 |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Ah, I asked that once too (can't remember where though).
And the answer I got was:
The cat stops just before it hits the ground and starts to spin around with ever increasing speed until it becomes too much and the cat explodes all over the place.
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i rather think this would lead to the implosion of the enitre universe |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
If a cat always lands on its feet, and a piece of toasts always lands butterside up, if u tie a piece of buttered toast to the back of a cat, and dropped it from a height, what way up will it land? :o |
The cat will land on its feet, but as it does so, the twine tying the buttered toast to its back will snap, and the toast will fall of, landing butterside up. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | | i rather think this would lead to the implosion of the enitre universe |
I had a debate with my friend just a few days ago about the very same thing and we also came to the same conclusion.:cool: |
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| kirbtastic |
| whos got a cat and some buttered toast..lets try this one out |
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| sherman |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
after readin it 8 times i still dont get it. their time- position, our time-position, why's that relevant? There are two oranges and a line connecting them. Orange A sees orange B like orange B sees orange A. A 2 billion year lag is a 2 billion year lag, so if we see them with delay x, why's their delay 2x ? Why does it add up? |
what i got from it is that he meant that when we look at them they are 2 billion years behind us, and then they look back from that time (2 billion years behind us) so when they are looking back they are already that far behind us, and then the 2 billion year lag is added to that...and you get the 4 billion....but as far as i know if they were looking at us at the same time as them it would be the same time lag for both of us...if i'm wrong someone please correct me |
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| DJ Mikey Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by sherman
what i got from it is that he meant that when we look at them they are 2 billion years behind us, and then they look back from that time (2 billion years behind us) so when they are looking back they are already that far behind us, and then the 2 billion year lag is added to that...and you get the 4 billion....but as far as i know if they were looking at us at the same time as them it would be the same time lag for both of us...if i'm wrong someone please correct me |
that is correct ;) |
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| Renegade |
No, no, trust me here.
You look at a planet 2 billion LY away, you are seeing the planet as it was 2 billion years ago, right? Thus, assume you could see aliens on the planet. They too would be 2 billion years old. Now, what I'm trying to say is that if they (being two billion years old) were to look at us (being 2 billion light years away) they would see our planet as it was 4 billion years ago (as they are two billion years old already, then you add the 2 billion years light lag). Do you all get me? I can see this conversation going on for days, just quietly. :D
| quote: | | okay, i confess myself defeated... just PM me with your mail adress and i shall send it right away! |
It's [email protected] .
Quite a cool address if I don't say so myself. :rolleyes: |
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kirbtastic
for the US east coasters:
why do we drive on the park way and park on the drive way. |
because of the freaking speed limit.. at the speeds you are allowed to go on PARK ways, you may as well park and walk... :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
sorry. digruntled german driver here... |
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