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how do u make typical trance appregios?
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| gareth |
How do you make the typical trance lead appregios such as the one in
gouryella - ligaya's breakdown ?
how do the patterns work and layers work?
it would be cool if theres a screen shot of an example too!! |
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| brash |
EDIT: Using the code vB tag makes this look terrible... fixing it...
EDIT #2: Um, I probably should have picked a better (more typical for trance) chord progression... sorry, it was the chord progression I am playing with in another song at the moment. You get the drift. If want a simple uplifting-ish progression, try substituting Cmi, Csus2, Csus4, C (CD#G, CDG, CFG, CEG). I don't know enough about music theory or trance to come up with a trancy progression off the top of my head... :)
Try this and see if it is what you want:
Pick some chord progression. Let's use Cmi, Gmi/A#, Fmi/G#, D/A, each chord being one measure.
I'm going to pick a pretty typical (I think) pattern: on/on/on/off (you'll understand better in a minute). I'll use it for each part of each chord.
So here we go. Let's do 1/16 notes. You want three voices (is that the right word? In Buzz they are called tracks), one for each note of the chord.
Voice one....C C C - C C C - C C C - C C C -
Voice two....- D#D#D#- D#D#D#- D#D#D#- D#D#D#
Voice three..G - G G G - G G G - G G G - G G
That's one measure (and one chord) right there. The dash is no note playing. Notice that the pattern is spaced differently for different notes. This is important.
Let's do the whole thing:
Measure 1:
C C C - C C C - C C C - C C C -
- D#D#D#- D#D#D#- D#D#D#- D#D#D#
G - G G G - G G G - G G G - G G
Measure 2:
A#A#A#- A#A#A#- A#A#A#- A#A#A#-
- D D D - D D D - D D D - D D D
G - G G G - G G G - G G G - G G
Measure 3:
G#G#G#- G#G#G#- G#G#G#- G#G#G#-
- C C C - C C C - C C C - C C C
F - F F F - F F F - F F F - F F
Measure 4:
A A A - A A A - A A A - A A A -
- D D D - D D D - D D D - D D D
F#- F#F#F#- F#F#F#- F#F#F#- F#F#
Now there is a nice arpegiated chord progression. Try tossing some melody an octave or two higher in there, run it through a lowpass filter, and play with the cutoff to filter the melody in and out.
I'd post up a screenshot of what it looks like in Buzz, but we can't post attachments here... |
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| gareth |
i dont get about voice 1 voice 2 voice 3
are these 3 seperate sounds? |
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| brash |
Er, same sound (i.e. same instrument), different... things. When you play a C chord on the piano, for example, you have three different notes playing at the same time. That's what I mean. If you have, say, the mda piano VSTi playing a chord, what do you call the different parts of the chord (e.g. the part playing C, the part playing E, and the part playing G in a C chord)? Voices? Tracks? Parts? Things? I dunno...
I've always called them tracks (because I learned all this stuff on Buzz), and figured they were really called voices (because I've read stuff about voices). I don't know the real term... :)
EDIT: All I really mean is play all that stuff on the same instrument at the same time. |
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| tranceman78 |
| quote: | Originally posted by gareth
i dont get about voice 1 voice 2 voice 3
are these 3 seperate sounds? |
those are the three notes of the chords in the chord progression |
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| gareth |
Brash I get what u mean.. u mean the grids ;)
but yah i know that appregio works like that with chords.. but.. if for e.g. gouryella - ligaya .. it seems to be more den just chords playing..
there seem to be something under it.. too..
it gives taht feelin of power and big |
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| brash |
| Hmm, I'll listen to the song and see if I can figure out what you are talking about. |
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| gareth |
yah it seems like its more den just 3 note chords...
its what most trance uses tho! ...
even in tiesto's magik journey.. |
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| quddha |
actually, its just 2 notes on the main synth, add some strings in the background and a bassline, and it sounds full..
goes something like this:
add a 3 tick delay to it, and you got the main synth. Don't underestimate the power of chords. they really make a melody sound lush and full, even if its just 2 note harmony. |
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| gareth |
weird but it doesnt sound like its a string behind it sounds like its part of the appregio but lots of different patterns of notes going together.. to make that effect i was just wonderin how it works.. hehe
damn! |
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