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Jew's to blame for War on Iraq!
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| melech_mike |
In recent weeks, the amount of anti-Israel sentiment has reached those levels seen in the 1930's. It's disgusting that today's society learned nothing from the years leading up to WW2.
Jewish conspiracies to take over the world have been springing up almost everywhere; again.
WHAT THE IS GOING ON??
Has everyone gone mad and become retarded?
Wake the up... this world is going up in flames and your solution is to blame the Jew’s for this mess?
This conspiracy wouldn't even make the X-files its so wack!
And you wonder why there is such a strong Jewish lobby. For if we weren’t so powerful a lobby, we'd probably be ordered to our death yet once again. You looking to lynch someone... lynch yourselves!
| quote: | "WACKY IRAQI CONSPIRACY THEORY"
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The conspiracy theorists are popping up across media and political
circles: America's showdown with Iraq is a Zionist-led plot.
Bill Keller's op-ed in The New York Times describes it like this:
"A cadre of pro-Zionist zealots within the Bush administration and among its media chorus (the "amen corner," as the isolationist Pat Buchanan crudely called them last time we threatened Iraq) has long schemed to make the Middle East safer for Israel by uprooting the hostile regime of Saddam Hussein. They have finally succeeded, the theory goes, in pushing their agenda up to the desk of a gullible president."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/08/opinion/08KELL.html
At the basis of the theory is a 1996 memo by some American conservatives, written for Binyamin Netanyahu, spelling out ideas for Israeli diplomatic-economic-security policy. One of the items called for the removal of Saddam Hussein from power. (Read the document at:
http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm)
The Washington Post describes how "these 'neocons' then insinuated
themselves into the Bush administration and seized on 9/11 as the pretext to put their plan into motion. Mr. Bush and his top foreign-policy team -- Vice President Cheney, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and CIA Director George J. Tenet -- are presumably too weak and gullible to evade the manipulations of these Jews."
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar...-2003Mar11.html
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So who is spreading this conspiracy theory? Here’s a short list:
JIM MORAN (U.S. Congressman)-- "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this. The leaders of the Jewish community are influential enough that they could change the direction of where this is going, and I think they should."
EDWARD SAID (Columbia professor and Palestinian apologist) --"Wherever you look in the Congress there are the tell-tale signs either of the Zionist lobby, the right-wing Christians, or the military-industrial complex, three inordinately influential minority groups who share hostility to the Arab world, unbridled support for extremist Zionism, and an insensate conviction that they are on the side of the angels."
http://www.counterpunch.org/said03082003.html
DAVID DUKE (former KKK leader) -- "By any standard, this Iraq war is of no benefit to the United States of America, nor is it of any benefit to the commercial oil industry. So, for whose benefit does America wage this war? The answer is Israel, Israel, Israel! Radical Jewish supremacists in Israel launched this drive for war. Their agents all over the world, both in government and media, have been the real power behind this war."
http://www.balochistanpost.com/item.asp?ID=3436
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One might expect such comments from the political fringe. But what is
shocking is that this conspiracy theory is getting ink in some
"mainstream" publications.
Consider this op-ed published by the Chicago Tribune, written by
University of Chicago professor Fred Donner. Donner writes of a Likud-U.S. conspiracy to remove Saddam Hussein that will give Israel "an opportunity implement its long-cherished dream of expelling all Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza" and the U.S. will allow this "ethnic cleansing."
We expect better from an ostensibly respectable paper like the Tribune.
Read the article at:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ommentary%2Dhed
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Of course, this conspiracy theory has as much credibility as the popular belief in Muslim countries that the Israeli Mossad orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks. Yet for the anti-Israel media and politicians, the Iraqi showdown is just another opportunity to foment anti-Israel sentiment.
As Keller writes in The New York Times:
"The fact that our interests coincide with Israel's does not mean that a Zionist fifth column has hijacked the president's brain... Making the world safer for us -- defusing terrorism and beginning to reform a region that is a source of toxic hostility to what we stand for -- happens to make the world safer for Israel as well. But the idea that Israel's interests are driving one of the most momentous shifts in America's foreign policy is simple-minded and offensive."
History, it seems, is repeating itself. As The Economist observes: "In the 1930s, when anti-Semitism was both pervasive and respectable in America, Charles Lindbergh and his America-Firsters blamed Jewish interests for trying to drag America into a pointless war with Germany."
http://economist.com/world/na/displ...tory_id=1632966 |
What do you guys think about all these theories? Are you believing them and under what influence? Is this world really as dumb as it sounds or is this some more anti-Israel sentiment being hyped up by the media? |
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| rupert |
Yes we are all anti-semites. Even when it is plain as day that this war helps the militarists in Israel. Even when there own policy documents spell out clear as day why war on Iraq helps Israel.
I read this a long time ago.
http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm
It is co-authored by Richard Perle. Oh what a suprise, he is also a top american government official.
But we are all anti-semites. Even when Richard Perle says explicitly in 1996 what needs to be done, attack Iraq, ignore Oslo peace treaties, isolate Syria.
What do you want me to do, ignore your own clear as day statements.
Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. I dont need to make it up. Its true. Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle.
Fine Israel and America want war. So be it. In the long run this will be a disaster for both countries. |
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| Az |
| quote: | Originally posted by rupert
Yes we are all anti-semites. Even when it is plain as day that this war helps the militarists in Israel. Even when there own policy documents spell out clear as day why war on Iraq helps Israel.
I read this a long time ago.
http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm
It is co-authored by Richard Perle. Oh what a suprise, he is also a top american government official.
But we are all anti-semites. Even when Richard Perle says explicitly in 1996 what needs to be done, attack Iraq, ignore Oslo peace treaties, isolate Syria.
What do you want me to do, ignore your own clear as day statements.
Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. I dont need to make it up. Its true. Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle.
Fine Israel and America want war. So be it. In the long run this will be a disaster for both countries. |
didn't israel bomb an Iraqi Nuclear power station once :conf: |
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| rupert |
The israeli airforce blew up the Iraqi nuclear facility (supplied by France) in the early 1980's. Apparently Saddam wasnt too happy about it neither.
Oh well, Iran will get nuclear weapons sooner or later. Israel's monopoly on nuclear weapons in the Middle East was never going to last.
Later |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by rupert
Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. |
Americans aren't allowed to have dual citizenship ... |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| Heh, Israel and the US have very good relations, especially on the top political level. I don't think this is an Israeli plot, although both Bush and Israel want to see Saddam gone. I do think however, that Israel had at least some influence in assuring Bush he should attack Iraq. |
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| Blik |
off course you can't blame Israel for the upcoming war
this is just the same kind of the Israelians are used to write in "credible" (un-biased) papers |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by rupert
Oh what a suprise, the american administration is filled with officials who are either Israeli citizens, Israel lobby activists or former bosses of Military industrial complex companies. I dont need to make it up. Its true. Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle.
Fine Israel and America want war. So be it. In the long run this will be a disaster for both countries. |
Haha wait a minute ... Ari Fleisher??? The ever-imposing, all powerful, Godlike white house PRESS SECRETARY!!??? My my you're certainly right. When one sees the power that the press secretary wields it's certainly obvious that Israeli influence goes straight to the top... :rolleyes: |
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| Yoepus |
Well glad to see this place it still filled with the same idiotic posts, remarks, and israel bashing I last saw it in...
As for on topic remarks:
I thought you guys believed that the US government was controlled by the OIL INDUSTRY - these guys are 100% pro-arab, so how can the US government be controlled by the oil industry - going to war for oil, and at the same time be led by the Jewish lobby, and Pro-Israel factions?
You guys got yourselves confused.
On a more intellectual note, I will concede Jews have influence in America - but so does everyone else. They are an interest group, yet there interests are outweighed by other interest groups. A , what am I doing.. sorry I can't make intellectual notes here, you won't understand. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | | I thought you guys believed that the US government was controlled by the OIL INDUSTRY - these guys are 100% pro-arab, so how can the US government be controlled by the oil industry - going to war for oil, and at the same time be led by the Jewish lobby, and Pro-Israel factions? |
It is not controlled by either one of them, but they are both a powerful influence. And what makes you think oil industry is pro-arab?
| quote: | | Well glad to see this place it still filled with the same idiotic posts |
| quote: | | A , what am I doing.. sorry I can't make intellectual notes here, you won't understand. |
I see you didn't want to be left out so you added your own contribution to the stupid post heap. :tongue2: |
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| Izzy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
I see you didn't want to be left out so you added your own contribution to the stupid post heap. :tongue2: |
its like we're all one big happy family...
i missed you guys (im being serious) |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Izzy
its like we're all one big happy family...
i missed you guys (im being serious) |
Haha we are ... put us all in a room together and I gauruntee you only one of us is getting out alive. I have a pretty good idea of who I'm sure WOULDN'T make it out alive. Anyway where have you been? |
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