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| X-Hale |
OK
say you have a pc running your sequencer...then a synth controlled via midi from your sequencer.
what next? what to buy? from the synth to the finished article...
say if you wanted many parts from the same synth..
Stages of production, and examples of hardware please :) |
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| coby |
Well.. what i think is the best :
A midi keybord connected to your synth/s, and to the computer.. And have your synths connected 2 your comp 2 ..
A midi mixer that will control the software mixer.
A good computer with A good soundcard ... That has cubase sx or logic
Double flat screens :crazy:
Thats my dream studio
:wtf: :rolleyes:
Synths 2 buy - Virus c , Wldorf Q/ micro Q , nordlead, jp8000 ..
Lookem up :) |
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| X-Hale |
Thanx for the info mate....I already have a JX-305 and a JP-8000 :)
do you mean 2 computers??
where would I record to from the output on the synth? |
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| TranceInMySoul |
Well, there's two clear roads you could go down:
1) Pro soundcard with lots of inputs, plug all your synths in and then do your mixing in software
2) Hardware mixing desk
There's way too many examples of either to make any suggestions until you provide a ballpark figure of how much you want to spend ;)
Also, remember that hardware desks can be quite big, so space may be an issue too. |
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| hey cheggy |
| quote: | Originally posted by X-Hale
where would I record to from the output on the synth? |
You use a midi sequencer like Cubase or Logic. You plug your midi controller into your soundcard (computer) and into your synth. You then record the midi data onto your midi sequencer. Once you have recorded it, you play it back and make sure all the notes are in the right posistion. It's very hard to get them all on the right 64th note. Move them into the right spot on Cubase, Logic, etc, untill it sounds perfect. Becasue your synth is midi-connected to your computer, you can hear the notes play as you move them around. So once they're right, you play the midi track you have just recorded. The midi notes are sent out of your sound card into your synth. The sounds are then sent out the synth into the sound card and recorded as an audio file on your sequencer.
Hope that helps. |
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| X-Hale |
| quote: | Originally posted by hey cheggy
You use a midi sequencer like Cubase or Logic. You plug your midi controller into your soundcard (computer) and into your synth. You then record the midi data onto your midi sequencer. Once you have recorded it, you play it back and make sure all the notes are in the right posistion. It's very hard to get them all on the right 64th note. Move them into the right spot on Cubase, Logic, etc, untill it sounds perfect. Becasue your synth is midi-connected to your computer, you can hear the notes play as you move them around. So once they're right, you play the midi track you have just recorded. The midi notes are sent out of your sound card into your synth. The sounds are then sent out the synth into the sound card and recorded as an audio file on your sequencer.
Hope that helps. |
yeah mate that helps a hell of a lot, not quite ready to do it yet I reckon....although if I have any trouble can I drop u a PM?? |
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| hey cheggy |
| Yeah man, of course you can. That's what we're here for. |
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| DJ Chrono |
| quote: | Originally posted by X-Hale
say if you wanted many parts from the same synth..
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Ok, lets get some clear facts first.
In one midi cable 16 channels can be sent.
The maximum number of parts a single hardware synthesizer can play at one time is determined by it's multitimbral capacity.
Each synth part can be assigned to one of the 16 midi channels.
In a software sequencing program, individual tracks are assigned to "pick up" information from an assigned midi channel.
You can have as many synth parts playing at one time in your sequencer as you have multitimbral units.
To make it more clear I have an example from my own setup:
I have a novation supernova hardware synth. This synth has 8 part multitimbral operation. This means 8 individual sounds can be played simultaniously through the synthesizer.
I have hooked this synth up to my computer through a USB to Midi device. This will transfer the midi information back and forth. I have also hooked the supernova up to my sound card via RCA cable.
In my sequencer program (I use cakewalk sonar xl 2) I can set up 8 tracks to be used with my synth. On my supernova, I assign each of the 8 parts with a different midi channel. In my sequencer, I assign each of the 8 tracks I have created with the midi channels corresponding with my supernova. Now I can control and draw notes in for each of these 8 parts, each with their own track.
If I want to record the audio from my synth onto my computer, I just hit the record button, and press play. This will record all the triggered sounds onto a new track, which I can then export, and get ready for mastering.
Hope this helped. ;) |
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| hey cheggy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Chrono
Ok, lets get some clear facts first.
In one midi cable 16 channels can be sent.
The maximum number of parts a single hardware synthesizer can play at one time is determined by it's multitimbral capacity.
Each synth part can be assigned to one of the 16 midi channels.
In a software sequencing program, individual tracks are assigned to "pick up" information from an assigned midi channel.
You can have as many synth parts playing at one time in your sequencer as you have multitimbral units.
To make it more clear I have an example from my own setup:
I have a novation supernova hardware synth. This synth has 8 part multitimbral operation. This means 8 individual sounds can be played simultaniously through the synthesizer.
I have hooked this synth up to my computer through a USB to Midi device. This will transfer the midi information back and forth. I have also hooked the supernova up to my sound card via RCA cable.
In my sequencer program (I use cakewalk sonar xl 2) I can set up 8 tracks to be used with my synth. On my supernova, I assign each of the 8 parts with a different midi channel. In my sequencer, I assign each of the 8 tracks I have created with the midi channels corresponding with my supernova. Now I can control and draw notes in for each of these 8 parts, each with their own track.
If I want to record the audio from my synth onto my computer, I just hit the record button, and press play. This will record all the triggered sounds onto a new track, which I can then export, and get ready for mastering.
Hope this helped. ;) |
This is true, but you can only record one timbre at a time right. I mean, wouldn't you rather record each sound on a seperate channel so that you can apply any effects/volume/pan changes individually. Unless you have a sound card with 8 audio inputs and have 8 assignable outs on your Novation.
But either way, Chrono is right, midi runs on 16 channels. If you are using more than one instrument (synth, drum machine etc.) than you can run them all at the same time. You just select your output channel for each channel in your midi sequencer.
The only difference is with some midi controllers. While most send midi data out on a single channel, some controllers send data out on more than one channel and some break the data up, sending some parts on say channel 1 and other parts on, say, channel 7. |
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| X-Hale |
Thanx for you help guys :)
Now.....what sound card should I buy ;) |
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| hey cheggy |
| I use an M-Audio Delta Audiophile 24/96. It's done me pretty well. They're a good company as far as sound cards go. Terratec are also supposed to be pretty good. It really depends on what you need your soundcard to do and how much you want to spend. |
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