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some newbie music questions re: genres (pg. 2)
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| Teknoscaper. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scorchio
In House you got:
Tech-House (For Example: Cass And Slide)
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ahem
not quite
try Terry Francis, H-Foundation or Peace Division
C&S were prog/breaks man
also
Booty/Ghetto House(Sometimes Tech): (Derrick Carter, Carl Cox) |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
my opinion:
james holden - nothing (93 returning mx) <-- prog house
lasgo - something <-- commercial trance
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i would say james holden is more prog trance? but then again im not an expert on prog
lasgo would be more like euro trance / club trance.. i dont think commercial is a proper genre label |
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| AndskiSpeed |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
lasgo would be more like euro trance / club trance.. i dont think commercial is a proper genre label |
sounds right to me.. |
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| torontotrance |
| But some stuff sits on the fence between genres. Like the second half of gu024 cd 2...some of that stuff...certain ppl consider progressive...progressive trance....and other genres. |
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| Duke2003 |
| yeah it's on the fence a lot! I guess that's pretty good, songs that cover more genres are more exciting i think |
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| cluBBer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scorchio
In House you got:
French House (For Example: Junior Vasquez)
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Junior Vasquez playing or producing New York / Chicago House
French House is Modjo, Cassius, Bob Sinclar |
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| neoraver |
I'd say
alter ego - betty ford <-- techno/electro
dj shufflemaster - geylang <-- techno
renato cohen - pontape <-- techno |
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| bundantoh |
woo. yay.
the prog trance/house still gets me, but thanks for clearing the rest up. |
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| Teknoscaper. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i would say james holden is more prog trance? but then again im not an expert on prog
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take away the vocal what do you have? boring old prog house
vocals don't make songs 'trancey' |
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| ambrus07 |
The main gnres and some examples:
Uplifting: Nu-NRG, Pulser, Ralphie B, Ronski Speed.. basically 4/4 beat, lots of yummy buildups and epic, melodic synths @ 137-140 bpm
Epic: Uplifting trance that has been 'canonized' so to speak :D such as Armin - Communication, System F - Solstice, yadda ydda ydda...I would also place L-Vee and MIKE productions here, since it doesnt seem right to call them progressive or uplifting... and they just have that 'epic' feel.
Progressive: James Holden, Gabriel & Dresden, Parker & Wilson, Max Graham.. basically still 4/4 beats but slower (128-132 bpm), less noticable synths/buildups, more funky and creative basslines, tend to be longer than uplifting as well.
Tek-Trance: Marco V., most of Picotto's stuff, some Timo Maas, Marco is best example though... basically a hard techno beat with synths and melodies layered over it that make it sound trancey.
Goa/Psychadelic: Infected Mushroom, Astral Projection, Man With No Name, early Darren Tate stuff.. very fast, with a typical bassline and similar drumkits.. just listen to some infected mushroom and you'll understand.
Hard/Acid: Kai Tracid, SHOKK, Chromedioxide II, Hennes & Cold, Dj Scot Project... faster than uplifting, with a typical drumkit and an 'acid' synth effect, the best example of which is Derb - Derb (arome Mix) These will all be very high energy and layered with heavily distorted synth effects.
Techno: Dj Rush, Chris Liebing, some Picotto (Liberty Drum, etc), Carl Cox, Sven Vath
... very fast, very high energy, virtually no synth, maybe a vocal sample or two, characterized by bass and drums in a 4/4 beat. Keep in mind i am not including techno such as Aphex Twin/Fatboy Slim/Orbital since that is a whole other genre entirely.
Hardhouse: Tony de Vit, Dj Irene, Fergie... like techno except more samples.. really not too much difference. Techno tends to be darker/more evil.
Prog-House: MoShic, X-Press 2, Green Velvet, Paranoid Jack, Deep Dish, Steve Lawler.. basically imagine a slower, funkier prog trance.. that's how i would describe it. A lot of artists really blur the line between the two.
House: Robbie Riviera, Olav Basoski, Bad Boy Bill, etc etc. radio house, too many and too diverse to try to sum up.. you know what im talking about.
Eurohouse: Trance, but not.. is mostly dead by now, but flourished in the late 90's.. included names like Dj Quicksilver,
Lightforce, Brooklyn Bounce (who have totally changed their style since then), Pulsedriver, Sash!,... ah the good old days.. had that characteristic 'bouncey' bass.. Basically a much slower uplifting trance. :D
Tribal: take progressive and add tribal drums. (Lawler does this a lot)
Breaks: Hybrid, grayarea.. duh, of course this means they don't use a 4/4 beat... if they did i would call them progressive.
Uplifting Progressive: this is a name i made up to include impossible to place tunes that seem to be the norm of today like Cor Fijneman - Exhibition, Scott Bond vs Solar Stone - 3rd Earth, Armin - Song for the Ocean, Lost Lynx - Seasons (Three dRives), and the like.. they are too progressive to be uplifting, but too uplifting to be progressive :D This is also where i would place most of PvD's productions.. but this was someting i just invented, so whatever.
*Disclaimer: lots of artists have done too many different things to be able to be clumped in one genre.. here i am thinking particularly Sasha/Digweed and Way Out West. Armin would also fit this category, since he went from house to epic to uplifting to progressive...
if anyone has anything to add, no problem. i dont claim to be all knowing. |
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| PSi |
| quote: | Originally posted by bundantoh
i know this topic has been discussed before.
but i was just wondering...what is the difference with all these kinds of music? i thought i had everything down: trance, techno, happy hardcore, house, and progressive. but now there's tek-trance, tek-house, progressive house, progressive trance, so on so forth. and i still dont know what psychadelic trance is.
so.
i'm going to type out some (hopefully) well-known songs that go across styles, and i would appreciate it if you guys could — since all of you know more about music than me, no sarcasm — label them with their appropo' genre.
alter ego - betty ford (dunno)
atb - don't stop (Cheese)
cass and slide - perception (proper trance)
delerium - innocente (deep dish rmx) (proper house)
dune - boomerang (Cheese)
dj sammy - heaven (Cheese)
dj shufflemaster - geylang (Cheese)
hi-gate - hurricane (Cheese)
james holden - nothing (93 returning mx) (proper prog trance)
jimmy van m - love like sleep (proper prog trance)
kansai - rococco (trance)
lasgo - something (Cheese)
marco v - godd (Cheese)
mauro picotto - awesome (Cheese)
nu-nrg - butterfly (Cheese)
renato cohen - pontape (dunno)
ricky effe - sector.30 (Cheese)
solar stone - solarcoaster (midway rmx) (Cheese)
system f - solstice (classic Cheese)
tekara - breathe in you (Breakbeat)
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so basically
you should just listen to these and delete the rest:
cass and slide - perception
delerium - innocente (deep dish rmx)
james holden - nothing (93 returning mx) (proper prog trance)
jimmy van m - love like sleep (proper prog trance)
tekara - breathe in you (Breakbeat)
Im happy to help anytime
The name's PSi
later |
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| webbie |
I know there was a great thread earlier that helped me some in
defining some of the genres, dont remember what the thread was
named but something with genre.
Its really hard to define a tune to 100% what genre it is, but
its all too personal. What I define as progressive house someone
might define as deep house or whatever, its just tough.
But it comes to you after listening to tune after tune after tune,
then you can one day just realize what genre a tune really belongs
to or what defines a genre.
Its quite interesting to read and discuss what genres music belongs
to but one cant get to dependant on relating to genres and having
small "genre wars" with each other. |
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