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| SportTrance |
Do you think its fair to say that the lower-requirement job market companies (target, walmart, etc), prefer to choose lower educated employees over educated? If so, why?
Discuss. |
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| djdust |
| you know what- I don't understand that either? Some of the dumbest people get jobs while I don't. I mean- obviously- I'm qualified- I make my damn application all nice and organized. I dress up to the interview session, and I can speak English (that's a big thing down here in Houston, I'm sure you know). But, ah well... some people just get the job. It's sort of like that with girls-- you may be highly qualified, but some jerk will come along and get the girl. |
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
Do you think its fair to say that the lower-requirement job market companies (target, walmart, etc), prefer to choose lower educated employees over educated? If so, why?
Discuss. |
lower educated people wont have much expectations..they wont be hard to please and wont ask for much. they will do whatever it is they r required where as a higher educated person might have too much pride to do some " dirty work". |
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| SportTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceaholic
lower educated people wont have much expectations..they wont be hard to please and wont ask for much. they will do whatever it is they r required where as a higher educated person might have too much pride to do some " dirty work". |
and thats pretty much my answer as well.
The ideal perfect employee, under a business ONLY perspective, is one who asks no questions, has to do the job, has no other options, and won't pose a threat to management in any fashion. |
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| SportTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdust
you know what- I don't understand that either? Some of the dumbest people get jobs while I don't. I mean- obviously- I'm qualified- I make my damn application all nice and organized. I dress up to the interview session, and I can speak English (that's a big thing down here in Houston, I'm sure you know). But, ah well... some people just get the job. It's sort of like that with girls-- you may be highly qualified, but some jerk will come along and get the girl. |
Its tough because when you're in college, and not finished, you're at a median. You're not only competing with the educated, but also the un-educated. There was a time in this country when a highschool diploma, was good enough, and a college education was a +, not so much a necessity.
However, it has changed to the point where a GED is equivalent to a 4 year diploma. Which imo is one of the most pathetic standards and pisses me off everytime I see an application that puts "diploma or GED" in the same selection box. Instead of seperate.
Fact is 4 years of sitting in class rooms 8 hours a day simply dominates a 2+ week course. We have a public highschool system that provides FREE schooling. If you have a kid to take care of, tough , its your fault for getting knocked up. Don't have a car, we got school busses. In my arrogant opinion, there just are no excuses.
Just a month ago, I was told for the first time, that I was over-qualified for a job. Infact, I was told bluntly, that I would not be happy with the pay, and would not like my job duties. So I simply didnt get it. |
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by SportTrance
Its tough because when you're in college, and not finished, you're at a median. You're not only competing with the educated, but also the un-educated. There was a time in this country when a highschool diploma, was good enough, and a college education was a +, not so much a necessity.
However, it has changed to the point where a GED is equivalent to a 4 year diploma. Which imo is one of the most pathetic standards and pisses me off everytime I see an application that puts "diploma or GED" in the same selection box. Instead of seperate.
Fact is 4 years of sitting in class rooms 8 hours a day simply dominates a 2+ week course. We have a public highschool system that provides FREE schooling. If you have a kid to take care of, tough , its your fault for getting knocked up. Don't have a car, we got school busses. In my arrogant opinion, there just are no excuses.
Just a month ago, I was told for the first time, that I was over-qualified for a job. Infact, I was told bluntly, that I would not be happy with the pay, and would not like my job duties. So I simply didnt get it. |
it is hard gettin a job these days...u gotta have a hookup or start low and climb ur way up..thats how i did it. a college degree doesnt mean much anymore unfortunately.. |
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| Slylee |
don't complain...go get a better job.
they hire those people so they don't have to pay them as much. they probably pay them less than minimum wage sometimes.
screw it. move on.
it's really not that hard to get hired if you have faith in yourself, make a good presentation and do well on interviews. gotta be able to sell yourself. |
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| Ripped Bag |
You know experience in the field (Regardless of how menial it is) always helps. Even though you have all this education and are more qualified in that way. Some guys that have somehow worked their way in to that system and have had experience will be taken over you. But, in your situation I suppose it is because they like to have mindless drones that only do what they're told.
GED and High School diploma thing though... Well nowadays it seriously is like getting a high school diploma. I don't consider it much of an accomplishment to have graduated considering the incredibly low standards, and the fact that you can just be good at a sport and be launched right through high school. I understand some people may struggle to graduate, but I'd be willing to say they're pretty stupid if they can't make it. If there are situations which keep them from it I can see that. But academics in the US public schools are really lacking. Not only how they teach it but also who teaches it and the resources they have available to them. We all know the public system is jacked up right now. Some people that are to smart and just want to move on will take a GED and go straight to college and graduate top of their class anyway like my friend.
Sucks all around. You can't get the job because you don't have the experience, you have to much experience, not enough education, to much education, and on and on..
Sometimes though its just because you stink, and they don't want someone smelling up the place. Try taking a shower. |
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
don't complain...go get a better job.
they hire those people so they don't have to pay them as much. they probably pay them less than minimum wage sometimes.
screw it. move on.
it's really not that hard to get hired if you have faith in yourself, make a good presentation and do well on interviews. gotta be able to sell yourself. |
i agree its all about selling urself...there are people that are super qualified but dont get the job cause they are all technical and bore the hell out of the HR person..they dont only look for resume they look for likeability and social skills after all once u r hired they r stuck with u |
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| Boomer187 |
WTF, I worked at walmart, and I have 2 degrees. and im in grad school. :P
they don't usually like students because of the work schedule conflicts, like most jobs would.
but it is hard to get a job, especially if your in a town where you know absolutely nobody. you gotta start low....but funk it, if you need a job badly enough, you will get one. like my ty job....
I can't wait til I graduate finally. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
WTF, I worked at walmart, and I have 2 degrees. and im in grad school. :P
they don't usually like students because of the work schedule conflicts, like most jobs would.
but it is hard to get a job, especially if your in a town where you know absolutely nobody. you gotta start low....but funk it, if you need a job badly enough, you will get one. like my ty job....
I can't wait til I graduate finally. |
Whats min wage in NV?
-Clovis |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
Whats min wage in NV?
-Clovis |
funk if I know...$5 something?
5.50...5.60....dunno. |
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