Music that is unpleasant or challenging to listen to
Is this totally subjective or is there some universal reason to why this tickles me the wrong way? Cool music video, but I must really concentrate to listen to it and not just turn it off. The drums in the last part of the track makes it more bearable. Is the reason that I'm not used to listening to tracks with changing tempo and strange structure? Do you like this track?
Post other examples of what -you- think fit this description.
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Klangkarussell - Sternenkinder
Mar-09-2012 21:59
Rodri Santos
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Milan
Brostep?¿
Mar-09-2012 22:02
Redd
decent idiot
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Tønsberg
quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Brostep?¿
last part of it sounds a little like Aphex Twin.
edit; ok now I understood. You think brostep is unpleasant to listen to. Not exactly what I was thinking of.
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Klangkarussell - Sternenkinder
Mar-09-2012 22:05
phyrrus
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Rio de Janeiro, RJ
this song comes to mind, I don't think I need to list the reasons why.
It boggles my mind how anyone can enjoy listening to stuff like this. And then there's the whole noise/non-music thing which is for masochists I guess.
Originally posted by Woony
It boggles my mind how anyone can enjoy listening to stuff like this. And then there's the whole noise/non-music thing which is for masochists I guess.
I find this a lot easier to listen to than the track I posted. But yeah, this was what I was thinking of. I guess this track has a beat which mine for the most part don't. That probably makes it easier for me to handle.
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Klangkarussell - Sternenkinder
Mar-09-2012 23:35
Mattsanity.
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto
Dub techno
Mar-10-2012 00:15
Titanium
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2009
Location: Your Mom
The pitch crap played by the douchebag known as Markus Schulz and Armin van Buuren. Anything by Rank 1, Arty, Jochen Miller, W&W, Beat Service, Arnej etc etc
Mar-10-2012 00:51
Settimo
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2010
Location: Hollywood, California
i think this is wonderful, but i really enjoy listening to it at like 4 am...i'm not awake at 4 am too often.
quote:
Originally posted by Woony
It boggles my mind how anyone can enjoy listening to stuff like this. And then there's the whole noise/non-music thing which is for masochists I guess.
that track and album is utterly brilliant.
Mar-10-2012 02:15
sljiva
experimental
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Zagreb
quote:
Originally posted by Woony
It boggles my mind how anyone can enjoy listening to stuff like this. And then there's the whole noise/non-music thing which is for masochists I guess.
Depends how you see, approach and experience noise really. If you see it as a disturbance, something unwanted that needs to be eliminated as soon as possible, then I guess I understand why you don't like/understand this type of music. On the other hand, I see noise as just another element of music, distinct spectrum of frequencies (actually all of them) that, if utilized correctly, can be as (or even more) effective as any other technique or sound out there. Noise can help create some really unique atmospheres and invoke certain feelings and emotions, which are otherwise almost impossible to accomplish. Physical impact of noise on your body also shouldn't be neglected.
I haven't listened to this second Emptyset album yet, though I've heard the first one and quite liked it. But I can't help the feeling that they're imitating Pan Sonic, who have explored and perfected this type of techno/industrial/noise music long time ago, and this video you posted certainly proves that. So yeah, this track is not much of a thrill, though not because of their use of noise, but because it sounds bland and it does not really explore new grounds and possibilities. This is how a great track of that style sounds like:
Constantly changing shapes and timbres of noise circulating around a static basis making beautiful contours and curves. Like a great sculpture building itself. Pure audio orgasm.
About the OP track: I can see and respect what those string stabs try to accomplish, and I really like the theme of that track, but I can't say it sounds too interesting to me. I wouldn't say it's unpleasant or challenging, just not really exciting. I share this feeling for a lot of her songs, although Björk is brilliant most of the time. I still haven't properly listened to Biophilia yet, though tracks like Crystalline and Cosmogony indicate that I really should have done it by now.
Mar-10-2012 03:38
Redd
decent idiot
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Tønsberg
quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
About the OP track: I can see and respect what those string stabs try to accomplish, and I really like the theme of that track, but I can't say it sounds too interesting to me. I wouldn't say it's unpleasant or challenging, just not really exciting.
Okay, do you understand how/why people can see it as unpleasant though? And yes I realize this can be said about any type of music, my point here was to discuss and figure out what exactly is it that makes it 'hard' to listen to. Is it the tempo-swings or the random notes? Do I specifically find this unpleasant because it's so far away from the music I normally listen to? Is musical taste so unique that what I find challenging to listen to in this track someone with the same musical preference as me might find enjoyable?
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Klangkarussell - Sternenkinder
Mar-10-2012 09:10
Redd
decent idiot
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Tønsberg
quote:
Originally posted by Settimo
i think this is wonderful, but i really enjoy listening to it at like 4 am...i'm not awake at 4 am too often.
I would probably have had a hard time listening to this when I was 20. But now I can find enjoyment in it. There was a time when I couldn't stand a certain kind of cymbal being used in trance/house-tunes. It just made me hate the track. Somehow it passed. I'm curious to know how and why. So my musical tastes evolve and change, but why do I start enjoying *this* and not *that*? Why is the Vladislav Delay track ok for me, but not the Bjørk-track?