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Originally posted by Rememberence_ I'm also interested in how well they isolate as compared to the HD280, of course taking into consideration that the HD280 is circumaurel (encompasses your ears) while the HD25 is supraaural (sits tightly up against your ears, not around them).

this is the reason i'd NEVER get the hd25s. never! i can't understand why someone would get supra-aural rather than circumaural! i hate supra-aural headphones so bad! they feel the worst of all types of headphones and just simply suck! and this is all IMO then!

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Originally posted by skip this is the reason i'd NEVER get the hd25s. never! i can't understand why someone would get supra-aural rather than circumaural! i hate supra-aural headphones so bad! they feel the worst of all types of headphones and just simply suck! and this is all IMO then!

Have you tried the hd25s yet?

They block out an enormous amount of outside noise, and they don't feel bad at all.

I think you should try something first, rather than just saying it sucks because you think it sucks.

I've had both the 280s and the hd25s on, and i prefer he hd25 over all of the headphones i have listened to. That includes the infamous Sony (ahum...), Pioneer HDJ-1000, Sennheiser 280s, and the hd25s...

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Originally posted by djxtension Have you tried the hd25s yet? They block out an enormous amount of outside noise, and they don't feel bad at all. I think you should try something first, rather than just saying it sucks because you think it sucks. I've had both the 280s and the hd25s on, and i prefer he hd25 over all of the headphones i have listened to. That includes the infamous Sony (ahum...), Pioneer HDJ-1000, Sennheiser 280s, and the hd25s...

nope, i haven't tried either ones, but i'm thinking of trying and buying the 280s because so far i've hated every supra-aural headphones i've tried on and loved the feeling of circumaural phones. just what i prefer. and i've read many times that the 25s can be quite annoying after long times because they put so much pressure on your ears. and i have a big head too!
and don't the 280s block out more noise than the 25s though?!
anyway i'd never consider buying the 25s really as i don't think they're what i'm looking for or something that i'd be comfortable with!

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Gotta add that my HD280 cans broke (the headband as most of you will have probably guessed).

both side of the band are broke...i had them for almost 2.5 yrs now

I still prefer the HDJ-1000.......HD-25s are good too but too expensive IMO

My HD280s have now cracked more after this picture was taken, pieces have been breaking off the right side up to one inch from the end. They are still useable but very soon will break completely.

Maybe it's because I have a tall head, I need to extend the headphones about 7/8 of an inch out of the band (they can extend 1.5 inches). I tried putting the headband on the back of my head but that does not work, they slide off.

I am about to try to get a gig at some local places so this is a very bad time for them to break (again), although they are still under warranty it takes 3 weeks to get them fixed.

So I need a second set of phones, maybe HD-25 or other. Definitely do not want to worry about them breaking. I guess I could get the 280s fixed and then sell them since they don't work for a domehead like me.

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Proud owner of HD-280. Excellent headphones. Sound awesome. Been using them for quite a while and not a single crack.

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Both fine phones, but i would choose the hd25's

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Originally posted by tvmann My HD280s have now cracked more after this picture was taken, pieces have been breaking off the right side up to one inch from the end. They are still useable but very soon will break completely. Maybe it's because I have a tall head, I need to extend the headphones about 7/8 of an inch out of the band (they can extend 1.5 inches). I tried putting the headband on the back of my head but that does not work, they slide off. I am about to try to get a gig at some local places so this is a very bad time for them to break (again), although they are still under warranty it takes 3 weeks to get them fixed. So I need a second set of phones, maybe HD-25 or other. Definitely do not want to worry about them breaking. I guess I could get the 280s fixed and then sell them since they don't work for a domehead like me.

I don't think you'd have a problem selling them. In fact, I recently sent my HD280s to Sennheiser here in the states to get repaired, it took them just over 2 weeks (meanwhile I had to play gigs with those horrendous sony 700's) but I got a brand new pair in the mail. It was weird, there was no mention of a brand new pair, but everything was new, the earpads, the cable, the headband, and it was obvious when I used them because they sounded brand new, as opposed to burned in.

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Originally posted by djxtension I've had both the 280s and the hd25s on, and i prefer he hd25 over all of the headphones i have listened to. That includes the infamous Sony (ahum...), Pioneer HDJ-1000, Sennheiser 280s, and the hd25s...

Why? Could you go into more detail, cos personally I'm not going to buy HD25s just because of the general consensus, I'd like to know the details.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Both fine phones, but i would choose the hd25's

Why?

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I use the HD25's regularly for work, and they are rock solid. Sound is crisp and detailed. Some might like the sound of the HD280's better, but I find there is more detail in the 25's, and the low end is more controlled.

About rock solid, my HD25's have been mistreated in any possible way you can imagine, people stepping on it, pulling the cable, falling from pretty high, even went underwater once (not voluntarily I must admit) and they still work like new. Only thing I had to change was the cable.

The HD25SP's don't use the same drivers though. They don't sound the same as regular 25's (a little more muffled), the cable wires differently (in the regular 25, one side gets stuffed in the headband) and you don't get the split headband. But they are cheaper, and still pretty solid.

Be aware there are several 25 models. If you want to dj/produce with them, it's better to take the HD25-1. It's impedance is 70 Ohm, and is more suited for this use. The cable is 1.5m long, and it features a standard minijack, with a 1/4" adaptor included. You can find HD25-13's also, which are 600 Ohm. Generally more suited for hifi, and recording monitoring functions, where several phones are used together, 600 Ohm will provide more margin for excessive impedance drop. The cable here is 3m, and it features a standard 1/4" jack. Although I must warn you that in some countries I've seen they switched the cables between the versions.

If you are from the UK, beware for the so called British Airways batch. Some malintentioned people sold HD-25 headbands, with lower spec'd SP drivers, for the price of the HD-25.

Oh and finally, besided they being rock solid, if you ever break something, everything is replaceable. You can even get velvet earpads if you wanna pimp it