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It's not an end justify the means arguement. All the law is there to do is to stop people from inciting hate of another section of socity.
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And who dictates what can be considered inciting hate of another section of society? What part of "Islam is vicious and wicked" is a call to violence? What if I said: "christianity is a bunch of crap, all christians and particularly southern baptists are idiots; the world would be better without them"? What if I said: "white southern trailer trash contribute nothing to society and they are simply a burden of our tax dollars. Society would be better without them"? Or even better: "illegal immigrants take our jobs, ruin our schools, and are all on welfare ... we need to take back our country!"? They all could easily be interpreted as "inciting racism" in as much as saying "islam is vicious and wicked". The problem with the law is that any religious criticism can be interpreted as inciting religious or racial hate.
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1) Our socity finds it unacceptable to judge someone based upon race or religion. (as you've said employment law already staes that)
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Well I'm not sure about your society but our society does not find it unacceptable to judge someone based on race or religion. Our society finds it unacceptable to deny an invidual's right to equal opportunities in society. You can judge a person or think however you like about them.
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2) If you want to propogate something our socity which incites hate of another section of our socity based upon race then our socity finds that unacceptable (you can have your view, even tell people about it if you like, you just can't incite hate.
Telling people to kill other people based upon race and so on.
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How is me telling someone "my view" in the same words that this BNP leader used, not inciting hate? What maybe if I only tell one person that Islam is vicious and wicked it's ok? Two people? At 5 people am I suddenly "inciting" hate? If the guy wants to stand on a street corner, looking like an idiot, and say we should throw the Arabs into the sea than let him. The second he or his group commits an illegal act of violence is when the law steps in for punishment. To throw the guy in jail for speech utilizes the same rationale as the governemnt throwing you in jail for holding rallies that criticize the government under the pretext that you are inciting a revolution or subversive activities.
| quote: | Originally posted by erdega
You are backtracking and carry brutal relativity on your part in part to suit the jewish agenda where muslim inspired and executed terror is accepatable and encouraged by american controlled media in bosnia and kosovo and russia but in Iraq and Palestine is bad.
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Huh? Please make some sense. Point out where I ever said that Muslim inspired terrorism was "ok" in the Balkans but not in Iraq?
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There is only one religion nowadays that aspires to physical conquest , beheadings, mutilation and female submission.
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Yea and historically all religions have aspired towards conquest and brutality. THe point is is that all religions are shit because all are suceptible to abuse and fundamentalism.
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And why are you quoting a self described racist from a british racist party BNP?
Is he ok too if he fullfills temporary plans against muslims this time.
Now if he said that Jews are wicked and evil, would you be qouting him here?
That guy would be locked up right away.
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Do you even bother to read the posts in this thread? If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not condoning or supporting the content of what he is saying, I'm supporting his right to say it regardless of who he's attacking. I could care less if he's attacking Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Leprechauns ... whoever.
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