Not all trance is melodic.

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Oh okay. Which trance track doesn't have some kind of melody?

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Originally posted by Radagast There is nothing wrong with the word epic. Epic: Surpassing the usual or ordinary, particularly in scope or size. Which is a perfect description of epic trance. Melodic trance is redundant. All trance is melodic. And all trance is not epic. Nor is all trance uplifting. These things have nothing to do with how epic is not a good word for a trance subgenre.

Epic is a poor word because it does not suggest a unique set of tracks. Any kind of trance can be epic, be it progressive, tech, ambient or otherwise. Beside,s, the word epic has other definitions than the one you mentioned. It's too vague.

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Originally posted by starglider Definitions must change, or we must introduce new definitions, otherwise we can't hope to define music. Music changes, no? Then we must have a way to describe it. Melodic is melodic, yes. All trance is melodic, yes. Distinctly different types of trance can, however, be recognized based on their musical properties, and thus categorized accordingly. The fact that you apparently wish to deny this process does not make it any less valid.

Simply because a trance track has "more melody" does not merit a new genre name.

Leama - Requiem For A Dream (Leama's Dream Mix) =! Melodic Trance
Leama - Requiem For A Dream (Leama's Dream Mix) = Ambient Trance

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Last edited by Radagast on Dec-29-2004 at 18:28

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Originally posted by Subtle

What kind of stupid topic is this? All music is not "uplifting". People listen to/create music for a bunch of different reasons; to express anger, joy, sadness, or just get totally brainfucked.

While you're at it, why not bitch about the word trance? Not all trance puts you in a trance, does it? No, because it's all subjective.

Fucking idiotic thread...

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Radagast Oh okay. Which trance track doesn't have some kind of melody?

Any track comprised of notes has a melody. Only percussive music does not have a melody, and even then, some percussion can be melodic. The use of the word melodic in any musical context is comparative. Melodic trance is melodic in comparison to other forms of trance. Be as pedantic as you like, because it doesn't stop the rest of the world using the word in context, correctly.

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Originally posted by starglider Epic is a poor word because it does not suggest a unique set of tracks. Any kind of trance can be epic, be it progressive, tech, ambient or otherwise. Beside,s, the word epic has other definitions than the one you mentioned. It's too vague.

As compared to less over the top, in your face, grandiloquent trance, epic trance is EPIC. The definition I used is the definition of epic that EPIC TRANCE connotates.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Any track comprised of notes has a melody. Only percussive music does not have a melody, and even then, some percussion can be melodic. The use of the word melodic in any musical context is comparative. Melodic trance is melodic in comparison to other forms of trance. Be as pedantic as you like, because it doesn't stop the rest of the world using the word in context, correctly.

Melodic = containing melody. All trance contains melody. Therefore no group or substyle of trance can be named melodic. End of story.

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Originally posted by Radagast As compared to less over the top, in your face, grandiloquent trance, epic trance is EPIC. The definition I used is the definition of epic that EPIC TRANCE connotates.

In fact, you've just contradicted yourself with this line of arguing. You either lose to Starglider, or me, take your pick.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Any track comprised of notes has a melody. Only percussive music does not have a melody, and even then, some percussion can be melodic. The use of the word melodic in any musical context is comparative. Melodic trance is melodic in comparison to other forms of trance. Be as pedantic as you like, because it doesn't stop the rest of the world using the word in context, correctly.

In comparison to *what* other trance? You still haven't given examples. Trance is based on having a melody.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory In comparison to *what* other trance? You still haven't given examples. Trance is based on having a melody.

Why do I have to give examples? Some trance has a melody in it for scant moments, other trance has melody throughout. I'm not making a fucking list of examples, it's bloody obvious.

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