Originally posted by arnoldjch
Well idk about that amendment, but burning the flag of your nation is disrespectful. I agree that the flag of your country stands for everything that country has to offer to you. If you urinate on a flag might as well leave that country because such actions give the idea that you dislike that country..... Many soldiers have died defending that flag and doing such thing will be disrespecting them also, showing that you dont care for the freedom you are enjoying today.
No. You have it ass-backwards. People have died defending the freedoms that the flag represents, not the flag itself as some kind of super-sacred inanimate object. If the country the flag represents ceases to represent said freedoms wtf would I care about 50 stars and 13 stripes if it stood for values that were completely antagonistic towards my own? If you think that desecrating the flag because it supposedly goes against everything our country stands for than I'm afraid you're not very learned with respect to what our country actually stands for. In other words, the first amendment is the FIRST amendment for a reason.
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Jun-23-2005 08:24
trancaholic
Danish Prophet of Doom
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg
quote:
Originally posted by arnoldjch
Well idk about that amendment, but burning the flag of your nation is disrespectful. I agree that the flag of your country stands for everything that country has to offer to you. If you urinate on a flag might as well leave that country because such actions give the idea that you dislike that country..... Many soldiers have died defending that flag and doing such thing will be disrespecting them also, showing that you dont care for the freedom you are enjoying today.
I'm wondering what you think of the flag being used as a backdrop for a continuous stream of lies served with an arrogant and demeaning attitude (i.e. Fox News)? Is it disrespectful as well?
IMO the only thing more sad than showing contempt through the burning of textiles is to outlaw such behaviour.
Jun-23-2005 13:36
arnoldjch
"Oracle of Miami"
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: A place i call home.
quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
I'm wondering what you think of the flag being used as a backdrop for a continuous stream of lies served with an arrogant and demeaning attitude (i.e. Fox News)? Is it disrespectful as well?
The American meadia over exagerrates things and lies A LOT. Its sad that many Americans fall for everything they say. THE MEDIA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW WE VIEW THE WORLD, and i wouldnt always blame the American media always also the Euro, although all of the news channel the one i trust the most is BBC News. But still all of you people view America as a country of lies, imperealist etc. This is a country that allows citizens to do almost what the hell they want, in a free society crazy shiet happens like serial killers emerge because the govt. dosent get to involve with civilians and their way of living.
Jun-23-2005 15:04
trancaholic
Danish Prophet of Doom
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg
Why not just answer the question?
Jun-23-2005 15:32
Dupz
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Melbourne
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Originally posted by occrider
No. You have it ass-backwards. People have died defending the freedoms that the flag represents, not the flag itself as some kind of super-sacred inanimate object. If the country the flag represents ceases to represent said freedoms wtf would I care about 50 stars and 13 stripes if it stood for values that were completely antagonistic towards my own? If you think that desecrating the flag because it supposedly goes against everything our country stands for than I'm afraid you're not very learned with respect to what our country actually stands for. In other words, the first amendment is the FIRST amendment for a reason.
you've always had a way with words Occ.. I think i'll let you post on my behalf from now on
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Jun-23-2005 15:36
occrider
Traveladdict
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
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Originally posted by Dupz
you've always had a way with words Occ.. I think i'll let you post on my behalf from now on
You sir, just made a very big mistake .
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Statement from Dupz via his spokesman
I have a few greivances to air. First, the people I hate:
1. Mormons (They're tools)
2. Christians (Isn't it obvious why?)
3. Catholics (The Pope sucks)
4. St_Andrew (Gets all the hot ewes)
The people I like:
1. Jews (They killed Jesus)
2. Nazis (They killed Jews)
3. Muslims (They like to blow things up)
4. Renegade (He's so dreamy!)
More people I hate:
1. The rest of you turds.
End communication.
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Jun-23-2005 16:00
Yoepus
Neo-condimist
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
quote:
Statement from Dupz via his spokesman
I have a few greivances to air. First, the people I hate:
1. Mormons (They're tools)
2. Christians (Isn't it obvious why?)
3. Catholics (The Pope sucks)
4. St_Andrew (Gets all the hot ewes)
The people I like:
1. Jews (They killed Jesus)
2. Nazis (They killed Jews)
3. Muslims (They like to blow things up)
4. Renegade (He's so dreamy!)
More people I hate:
1. The rest of you turds.
End communication.
Outrageous!
Spokesman, is it indeed true that Renegade is dreamy?
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Spokesman, is it indeed true that Renegade is dreamy?
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Statement from Dupz via his spokesman
Dupz would like to say, for the record, that while beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Renegade is indeed a dreamy man specimen that Dupz has been vociferously eying up and down. Furthermore, Dupz requests assistance in communicating aforementioned interest to the appropriate party.
End communication.
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Jun-23-2005 16:27
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC
Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Dupz, we hate you
Jun-23-2005 16:32
occrider
Traveladdict
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
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Originally posted by St_Andrew
Dupz, we hate you
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Statement from Dupz via his spokesman
Dupz hereby releases the following direct communiqué at this time: "Bite me you mangy Swede. Don't make me come over there and socialize your ass!"
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Jun-23-2005 16:44
metalgearsolid
I am a sexist
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/
not I. But I do hate all of you fags!
Jun-23-2005 16:44
Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC
Sorry to post on topic or anything... but to alleviate your worries, it won't pass the Senate. The House always passes extremely partisan drivel, simply because they can (see Henry Hyde's UN Reform Act). In the Senate things work differently.
Best Case: Turned down on simple no vote in Senate
Worst Case: Filibustered by the Dems until it dies