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Originally posted by occrider Fat people should be fed to the starving people of Africa. Problem solved.

fat people should be forced into the US military. its not like your recruiting standards are all that high as it is.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint It's because they are eating American food Yes, you can still blame America for obesity...

I remember hearing the rest of the world bitch that america doesn't have their own food, just food stolen from other countries. Also, no one forces you to eat our inferior food, or to cook it in our inferior ways.

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Originally posted by occrider Fat people should be fed to the starving people of Africa. Problem solved.

Jonathan Swift in reverse. I like.

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Originally posted by Idoru I'm cooler than you plus i give better head i swallow

It is easier for a man to destroy the light inside himself
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Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC Also, no one forces you to eat our inferior food, or to cook it in our inferior ways.

Yet everyone does so. Microwave dinners are ever so popular. It's because Americans don't have time to cook, or they are too lazy. Americans have the money to eat really healthy foods in abundance, yet are becoming increasingly obese.

Also, working out, in my opinion doesn't make a nation skinny at all. It has to do with what you eat and lifestyle. If you eat healthy and are active, you will be skinny. But there are a lot of people who drive to work in long commutes, eat bad-food, try a work-out regimine that will probably be dropped in the long-term (while costin a lot, depending on what you do), and still can't figure out why they are so unhealthy.

There are also diets which promote the lack of certain foods that are necesay to the human diet. Low-fat diets are bad, because fats are good for you, but you have to eat the right kind of fats, No or low-carbs, also bad. The only reason you loose weight with a low-carb diet is because lower carbs mean lower diets, but you will still lack necessay nutrition.

uh, ya I'm done...I gotta go get drunk now

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Yet everyone does so. Microwave dinners are ever so popular. It's because Americans don't have time to cook, or they are too lazy. Americans have the money to eat really healthy foods in abundance, yet are becoming increasingly obese.

And so Americans are exporting wealth and importing time from the rest of the world forcing them to adopt similar lifestyles? How disgraceful.

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Originally posted by occrider And so Americans are exporting wealth and importing time from the rest of the world forcing them to adopt similar lifestyles? How disgraceful.

No, not excactly as you say, but some of the most unhealthiest food in the world today, American born, are appearing and have been appearing al over the world since the 70's or something like that. That, in corelation with globalism (people are working harder, not physically, and the adoption of American work-standards), amongst other things, can be seen with obesity in other countries. Ofcourse this is just a theory of mine. Feel free to disagree.

My point was that growing obesity is not just america's fault. The fact that it is spreading to europe proves that. I think part of the reason is that in europe more people walk because of the infrastructure of cities that were built before cars. In america, many cities sprouted suburbs that sprawl 50 miles or more from the centre of the city, thus they can't walk to work or the store or wherever. One of the main reasons people are gaining weight is because our metabolism is built for humans who have to hunt and work in fields. I wasn't until relatively recently (1700-1800s) that industrialization really started. And even more recently (1970s) the technology age began, so people are not required to expend as much energy. So (and this is only my theory), for a while, the world will get fatter. Then, eventually, as more and more people die from obesity related causes, evolution will weed out those people and people with a very high metabolism will prosper. Eventually we won't have to work so hard to stay thin. Thats my theory. Discuss.

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Originally posted by Idoru I'm cooler than you plus i give better head i swallow

It is easier for a man to destroy the light inside himself
than to defeat the darkness all around him
www.myspace.com/enigmaticecstasy

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Originally posted by OurManFlint No, not excactly as you say, but some of the most unhealthiest food in the world today, American born, are appearing and have been appearing al over the world since the 70's or something like that. That, in corelation with globalism (people are working harder, not physically, and the adoption of American work-standards), amongst other things, can be seen with obesity in other countries. Ofcourse this is just a theory of mine. Feel free to disagree.

And so I'm still failing to see how this is America's fault as you described. Are you saying non-Americans are too weak willed to make their own dietary decisions?

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no problems over here

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Originally posted by occrider And so I'm still failing to see how this is America's fault as you described. Are you saying non-Americans are too weak willed to make their own dietary decisions?

the main problem as i see it is that the foods are processed. So many people are eating lazily made meals with all sorts of additives that theyt can cook in 5 minutes rather than spending an hour using fresh ingredients. When my brother did his initial year abroad in canada he mentioned how cheap the 'fresh' food was compared to over here, and that all of the other processed stuff was worse than back home. It's more due to the stressful/lazy lifestyles people lead imo than any country in particular being at fault. It's amazing how many people have forgotten what proper food tastes like

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Originally posted by Ian the main problem as i see it is that the foods are processed. So many people are eating lazily made meals with all sorts of additives that theyt can cook in 5 minutes rather than spending an hour using fresh ingredients. When my brother did his initial year abroad in canada he mentioned how cheap the 'fresh' food was compared to over here, and that all of the other processed stuff was worse than back home. It's more due to the stressful/lazy lifestyles people lead imo than any country in particular being at fault. It's amazing how many people have forgotten what proper food tastes like

Sooo, surpise surprise, when push comes to shove, Eurepeans are every bit as lazy and retarded as Americans when it comes to eating when subjected to similar circumstances. Now that wasn't so difficult.

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Originally posted by josh4 True as that may be, the catch comes in that their culture doesn't allow those circumstances to arise as often as they do in America.

So then there's no reason to blame America with respect to this issue? Frankly I'm confused. On the one side people are saying there is no problem in Europe, and on the other side y'all are saying that the problem is America's fault (with some very strange arguments with damning implications). Why don't I leave you all alone to figure things out .

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Originally posted by occrider Sooo, surpise surprise, when push comes to shove, Eurepeans are every bit as lazy and retarded as Americans when it comes to eating when subjected to similar circumstances. Now that wasn't so difficult.

I Never said we weren't. I was brought up on fresh food & produce, with only a few things processed, a lot of kids now eat nothing but junk, i dont know how parents can do it, but then again they do the same themselves. Our neighbours here eat pizza or chinese or burgers each night, burning the boxes each evening in their fire outside. the daughter must have put on 50lbs in the last 3 yrs since she left school at least.