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BadBadNeil
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: CT, USA!

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So what is the policiy? inform me please, so far i only seen war war war, did he do anything good for the states? because i am sure if he did i would at least read about it in the paper or see it on the news or even read it here on the forums, oh yea he is trying to ban gay marriages, such a great leader!

Here is a short rundown on some of his policies, the full policy report is over 200 pages.

Budget & Economy
New Prosperity Initiative: remove obstacles to advancement.

China
Agrees with Clinton-Gore: PNTR for China.
China NTR promotes freedom, security and economics.

Civil Rights
GOP to reach out with goal of prosperity for all races.
Enforce civil rights, reform education, help people achieve.

Defense
Increase military salaries & weapons spending.
Develop SDI, even if we must breach ABM treaty.
SDI needed for defense against rogue states & terrorists.

Drugs
Feds must help border counties fight drug traffickers.

Education
‘Reading First’ confronts a national emergency.
Federal funding & flexible state design for Reading First.

Environment
6-point plan for brownfield cleanup.
Superfund failing: too costly; too litigious; too complex.
Texas record: cleaner air & water; toxic cleanup.
Incentives for private land stewardship & conservation.
Conservation partnerships to protect lands & watersheds.
$60M for private stewardship; tax break on conservation land.

Families & Children
$2.3 billion over 5 years for adoption & child welfare.
Support measures to keep children in their homes.

Government Reform
Reform the court system to serve people, not lawyers.
Restore cooperation with Congress, to accomplish more.
Make govt citizen-centered, results-oriented & market-based.

Gun Control
Government should pay for voluntary trigger locks.

Health Care
New Prosperity Initiative: $2,000 health ins. tax credit.
Expand and Reform Medical Savings Accounts:.
$7.4B for nursing home insurance via tax deductions.
Affordable long-term care instead of financial ruin.
More funding for disability assistance.

Immigration
Latinos enrich us; family values go past Rio Grande.

Social Security
Maintain basics of government’s “most successful program”.
2% real return is not enough; sound investments get 6%.
Support retirement via government-plus-private system.

Tax Reform
Proposes tax cuts of $483B over 5 years.
Lower tax rates to 10%-25%-33%; end inheritance tax.
New Prosperity Initiative: 6 million tax-free families.
Reduce share of tax burden on low- and middle-income.

Welfare & Poverty
New Prosperity Initiative: rent vouchers; homeowner credits.
$1B & tax credits for Individual Development Accounts.
$1.7B over 5 years for home rehabs in poor neighborhoods.
Use financial incentives for social needs via private sector.

That was taken from a website, not my own words.

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Yes am basing my sucking info on global scale, but hey why would almost the entire globe say that Bush sucks? There must be a reason dude, so go figur.

The globe thinks that Bush sucks because all they ever hear about is the war in Iraq. Remember, before the war in Iraq the world for a large part supported Afghanistan and had sympathy after 9/11. I can guarantee the majority of the world knows nothing of our policies (as I wouldn't expect them to) so they are really in no place to say Bush sucks unless they base their opinion solely on a single event. Another reason may be the trade disputes we've had with Europe and Japan over steel, chicken and other goods. This is a two way street however.

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Indeed, they all promise great things but once they have the seat, they do what they like, Bush will do the same also.


Indeed they do, didn't say Bush wouldn't do the same, ever leader promises a lot to get elected, I just didn't want my girlfriend to be preoccupied and base her decision solely on promises that will never be kept.

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ah i see bombing nations, supporting occupation of 6 million people, threating other nations if you don't follow the will of America, killing thousands of people for NO reason etc etc. But hey thats nothing i suppose, it's only good for America so you owe nothing
How about a big appology?


If the occupation you mean Israel, well I believe personally the palestinians are at more fault (another topic) so I don't view it as a bad thing. The US doesn't threaten nations, it threatens sponsors of terrorism. Again the US doesn't kill thousands of people for no reason, they kill terrorists for a GOOD reason. In the end when this is all done and over and Iraq is in the history books it will be good for everyone, no apology necessary.


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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
It's official: The world doesn't vote in U.S. elections.


It's official: Shakka doesn't read my one liner quibs before posting his



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Shakka
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Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
It's official: Shakka doesn't read my one liner quibs before posting his





BLAST! I simply elaborated on it!

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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
You talk about having faith like we owe the world something. The only thing we owe the world is to choose who is best for ourselves, not for the rest of the world.


i would be perfectly fine with that, IF you didnt run over the international community (UN) and invaded other countries.

Now you do and that makes your choice of leader almost more interesting for the rest of the world than for you.

If other countries shouldnt care about your leader, then why do you care about who is the leader in other countries (ex Saddam Hussain)?

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trancaholic
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg

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Originally posted by JM
its funny now people in other countries have no clue what the fuck is going on here in the USA and what the issues are. i would guess most of these people polled know shit besides what they know about the war, and nobody like war... of course, if i was ignorant on issues other than media's coverage of the war, and terrorism in general didn't affect my country, i'd be up for kerry too.

actually on second though, i wouldnt. because i KNOW the issues apart from the war.

>JM<

Apparently it's a majority of US voters who are the ones who don't know what the f*ck is going on. The following is an excerpt from a series of poll results on CNN :

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And asked which man would better handle relations with other countries, Bush -- charged by his critics with alienating the world community through unilateralism -- beat his Democratic challenger by a 52 percent to 44 percent margin.

I don't think that anybody could handle relations with non-US countries worse than how we have witnessed Bush do it. Considering that anti-Bush demonstrations greet him wherever he goes, I'm totally surprised that the US voting public can be oblivious to this.

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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

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Originally posted by trancaholic


I don't think that anybody could handle relations with non-US countries worse than how we have witnessed Bush do it. Considering that anti-Bush demonstrations greet him wherever he goes, I'm totally surprised that the US voting public can be oblivious to this.


if by "handling relations", you mean "sucking dick" then by all means, our very own Mr. Kerry wins.

Kerry doesn't defend against the allegations posed against him, how the hell is he gonna fight for this country. What he did, if anything, back in the day does not qualify him as what counts is the present. And like I said, Kerry doesn't even defend himself these days, let alone give him the power to defend, lets say, a country.

>JM<

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ambs
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Curacao

well whenever I go to europe all they do is ask me about bush, his policies, if things are really as "bad" as they seem on tv and if he's really as dumb as he appears to be...

He's not perceived to be a good leader, and seems to think the world revolves around the USA and doesn't give a rats ass what the rest of the world leaders think.... anyways, i can understand that kerry is favored, but simply because they think anything is better than bush... and also because europe is very, very liberal... which bush and his party are obviously, not...

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trancaholic
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg

quote:
Originally posted by JM
Kerry doesn't defend against the allegations posed against him, how the hell is he gonna fight for this country. What he did, if anything, back in the day does not qualify him as what counts is the present. And like I said, Kerry doesn't even defend himself these days, let alone give him the power to defend, lets say, a country.

I know this has been said a million times before, but I'm going to give it one more shot: No foreign country is trying to attack the US! There's no one to "defend" against.
Relations to other countries *can* be non-military.

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BadBadNeil
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You have to know that there are probably thousands of people in this world at this moment trying to plan how to attack American interests and America itself. They may not be a formal country but they have to be located within some country's borders. If the country is willingly letting them operate out of their territory to attack our interests then that country can be viewed as a terrorist abiding nation. This is what happpened in Afghanistan. On the other end of the spectrum some countries actively fight against those who would harm our interests or global interests such as Pakistan and we have viewed them as an ally. No country should willingly allow people within their borders to attack a foreign country or turn their cheek when it happens.

Out of the 200+ countries on this planet America is friendly with the vast amount of them. I can only think of North Korea, Cuba, Iran, Syria, and Libya(until recently) having more hostile relations and a few others a more luke warm relationship. Because we are involved more globally than most other countries, it is more difficult to maintain relationships in every facet of this planet than a smaller country that may only have more direct relationships with its neighbors or those on its own continent.


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TrueToTheCrew
Officially Done



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ontario

Its official,
Brain washed Americans are retards.

Americans are the most loyal to their country but their country is fucking each of them up the ass with a 10 foot pole. If my Prime Minister was using my money to do everything but take care of me, i would not be chanting his name and re-electing him.

You have a president that only looks after private interest groups and doesnt give a shit about its citizens. People shouldnt die from mild ailments due to lack of health insurance. Oh wait a sec. Cheap "un-safe" drugs from Canada are prohibited because the special interest groups like to GET RICH OFF THE SICK AND DYING.


FOX News is propaganda.


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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
If my Prime Minister was using my money to do everything but take care of me...


We're not socialists!

Where in the Constitution does it say it is the role of government to be your babysitter?

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TrueToTheCrew
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
We're not socialists!

Where in the Constitution does it say it is the role of government to be your babysitter?


Foolish.
You know you pay taxes, why not have decent infrastructure. Everytime i go to the states, its like im off-roading cuz the streets are so shitty. Fix the roads.

Do you not think there are better areas to spend trillions of dollars they waste.

Is it so bad to have affordable education. Why is education for the rich only.

The guvernment does not have to take care of you but they can spend your money wisely on things that benefit its citizens.


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