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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
*yawn*

can someone just post the link to the 500 threads where this has already been endlessly debated?


yeah but it has moved on to even more bans so the topic is not going away anytime soon.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
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social costs of 16K deaths outweight the tax revenues on tobacco.

if half those people work, imagine the lost productivity.


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Goashem
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto

well, theyre banning smoking where it can negatively affect others whether the smoking person wants to or not. i am pro the designated closed indoor area for smoking and if the goverment will decide to ban tobacco use completely then it'll be more of a "choice" issue which i will oppose.

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by malek
social costs of 16K deaths outweight the tax revenues on tobacco.

if half those people work, imagine the lost productivity.


i wonder how many people die of heart disease due to eating fast food. Should we save those people as well?

Where does the save yourself from yourself mentality stop?


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Goashem
well, theyre banning smoking where it can negatively affect others whether the smoking person wants to or not. i am pro the designated closed indoor area for smoking and if the goverment will decide to ban tobacco use completely then it'll be more of a "choice" issue which i will oppose.


ok so we agree. They should have DSRs and outdoor patio smoking and the zealots should bugger off...

right?

I dont like smoking either. Im a non smoker. But i do see it in a bigger light. This is trampling people's rights and will have implications in wasy we dont even know yet.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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malek
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i wonder how many people die of heart disease due to eating fast food. Should we save those people as well?

Where does the save yourself from yourself mentality stop?


I think they should tax it, I would eat less fast food, and help me loose some pounds


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Goashem
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto

from what i understand jayx youre a conservative guy, and conservatives are highly "no-no" on the drugs issue. yet the pro-drugs use exactly the same arguement you are using right now. so whats the deal ?

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Goashem
from what i understand jayx youre a conservative guy, and conservatives are highly "no-no" on the drugs issue. yet the pro-drugs use exactly the same arguement you are using right now. so whats the deal ?


although i vote conservative for fiscal issues i am also a libertarian when it comes to rights and freedoms.

There is not one credible party in canada that totally stands for what i believe in.

Basically fiscal responsiblity and a free and liberal thinking society. Sadly even the liberals of this country want to try and restrict your civil liberties at every turn.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Goashem
oh yeah twitch it girl



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
ok so we agree. They should have DSRs and outdoor patio smoking and the zealots should bugger off...

right?

I dont like smoking either. Im a non smoker. But i do see it in a bigger light. This is trampling people's rights and will have implications in wasy we dont even know yet.

yip as long as people cant be affected by its their choice. but i personaly dont like the patio smoking cuz it is outdoors where people walk by.

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Goashem
yip as long as people cant be affected by its their choice. but i personaly dont like the patio smoking cuz it is outdoors where people walk by.


again if thats enough to ruin your health you are going to die anyways...

and if thats enough to ruin your day you are probably about to hang yourself...

so either way you are screwed.


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quote:
Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Old Post Jun-21-2005 03:40  Canada
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Goashem
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto

heh its not that extreme but it does annoy me. its not like im making a movement about it or write a letter to the government. but if the goverment decides to ban that, im all for it. just one of those choices i make

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ShadoWolf
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quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
CBC news (great news organization btw)


you're joking right?

http://www.cbcwatch.ca/



watch the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer instead

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/


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