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Originally posted by Synthesia Fair enough I think I've clarified mine. Suit you

Just a random fact: I represented Belgium, when I was doing the WW II simulation in school

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Originally posted by Trance Addix Just a random fact: I represented Belgium, when I was doing the WW II simulation in school

Hehe thats pretty cool

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Originally posted by Synthesia Hehe thats pretty cool

Yeah, in my game Germany didn't invade Belgium, because I was too sneaky for the kid representing Germany

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Originally posted by Trance Addix Well, I believe we have misunderstandings between eachother..I shall cut this arguement to maintain some civility between us. Have a good day!

Wow! some heat on this thread lol.

I have been an occasional user for 7 years and have done clubbing both sober and high. I beleive I can make a very valid opinion here.

One thing I don't like seeing on this thread is that some people almost seem to view EDM without drugs almost unthinkable. Too me that is just as narrow minded as saying all drug use should be banned togther. But.....I guess as long as you don't push that view on other people It's fine.

I do about 80% sober and 20% with drugs in my clubbing. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to still keep going after 7 years I can honesty say that alot of my best nights were sober. As long as you can get into the music and there's good company that's all that matters.

Once again I can't stress it enough TO EACH THEIR OWN!!!

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Originally posted by Truepioneer Wow! some heat on this thread lol. I have been an occasional user for 7 years and have done clubbing both sober and high. I beleive I can make a very valid opinion here. One thing I don't like seeing on this thread is that some people almost seem to view EDM without drugs almost unthinkable. Too me that is just as narrow minded as saying all drug use should be banned togther. But.....I guess as long as you don't push that view on other people It's fine. I do about 80% sober and 20% with drugs in my clubbing. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to still keep going after 7 years I can honesty say that alot of my best nights were sober. As long as you can get into the music and there's good company that's all that matters. Once again I can't stress it enough TO EACH THEIR OWN!!!

You stress correctly, ultimately that was what I was advocating for.

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Originally posted by Truepioneer Wow! some heat on this thread lol.

No heat anymore

Each to their own 100% agree, but to those who make (negative) judgements about others try to ground them first, and no I'm not pointing at anybody

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Originally posted by Synthesia No heat anymore Each to their own 100% agree, but to those who make (negative) judgements about others try to ground them first, and no I'm not pointing at anybody

Yep, no more heat, just a cool winter breeze.

yikes, this was a fun thread

look, I'm not saying that this music can't exist without drugs, I'm just saying that it doesn't happen today aside from within some obscure circles. I've had plenty of real experience that causes me to think this way. One only needs to go out and observe the people around them to realize that most people are in on this drug using underworld. Go to a party, walk in the bathroom, at alot of parties you will find a guy in the bathroom sitting behind a desk with a huge wad of cash in front of him. What the hell do you think that guy is doing? Why do you think he can just sit right there in front of the door like that?

Everyone is in on it!

Have you ever had drugs confiscated by a bouncer? Wanna know what he does with them? I can guarentee he isn't flushing them, and if you offer to flush them right then and there he wont let you and instead will take them from you. Guess what, the bouncers, and indeed the entire club enterprise is involved in drug peddling in some fashion.

The DJ's, standing in front of the crowd, would have to be retarded not to notice the looks on al the peoples rolling faces. If they didn't aprove of the drugs surely they would discorage them somehow when they see such a sight night after night, but they dont! They don't because those drug users are their meal ticket.

Todays clubbing environment is deeply conected with drugs. Everyone in the crowd who has even a tiny bit of observation skill can see it all hapening right in front of them. Even those kids who talk like they dont do them often are the ones doing them, or even seling them. People act all ritchous on these message board sites but you meet them in person and you quickly notice that look in their eye, that trembling motion they have and the drug lingo that they speak in. The drugs are everywhere and the people involved in the music realize this, but they continue to do nothing about it because they don't have a problem with it.

I'm not saying you need to to drugs when you go out, I'm not saying that anyone should be condemned for letting this happening, I'm just saying that you better realize what you are getting into when you go out, because that is what's out there.

^Excellent, very well said. Agree entirely.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 yikes, this was a fun thread look, I'm not saying that this music can't exist without drugs, I'm just saying that it doesn't happen today aside from within some obscure circles. I've had plenty of real experience that causes me to think this way. One only needs to go out and observe the people around them to realize that most people are in on this drug using underworld. Go to a party, walk in the bathroom, at alot of parties you will find a guy in the bathroom sitting behind a desk with a huge wad of cash in front of him. What the hell do you think that guy is doing? Why do you think he can just sit right there in front of the door like that? Everyone is in on it! Have you ever had drugs confiscated by a bouncer? Wanna know what he does with them? I can guarentee he isn't flushing them, and if you offer to flush them right then and there he wont let you and instead will take them from you. Guess what, the bouncers, and indeed the entire club enterprise is involved in drug peddling in some fashion. The DJ's, standing in front of the crowd, would have to be retarded not to notice the looks on al the peoples rolling faces. If they didn't aprove of the drugs surely they would discorage them somehow when they see such a sight night after night, but they dont! They don't because those drug users are their meal ticket. Todays clubbing environment is deeply conected with drugs. Everyone in the crowd who has even a tiny bit of observation skill can see it all hapening right in front of them. Even those kids who talk like they dont do them often are the ones doing them, or even seling them. People act all ritchous on these message board sites but you meet them in person and you quickly notice that look in their eye, that trembling motion they have and the drug lingo that they speak in. The drugs are everywhere and the people involved in the music realize this, but they continue to do nothing about it because they don't have a problem with it. I'm not saying you need to to drugs when you go out, I'm not saying that anyone should be condemned for letting this happening, I'm just saying that you better realize what you are getting into when you go out, because that is what's out there.

I agree also, and I want to clarify that I don't do drugs lol.

Worldlyway, I guess in some aspects I'm one of those obscure people lol no argument there lol

I have so much to say on this topic.

This isn't aimed at anyone specific by the way.

I don't have a problem with drug use unless they're abused of course. I also don't see any sense in critisizing peoples personal system of doing drugs that suites them best. Some people get a kick out of pointing the finger and condeming occasional users when they want to indulge, which can be annoying. They must just do it to get a laugh though

Their is no way I would deny the drug scenes existense or my part in it at all. That would kinda be denying something that has been happening since the beggging of time! (the drugs+music thing)

I just don't like that black and white view of either your 100% into them all the time or your 100% against. If I followed that view I would find it very limiting.

But yeah they're fun when you want to let loose no arguments there right??? lol

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