I'm for tougher adoption screening all around, no matter if the couple is homosexual, heterosexual, or someone single.

I also believe that being a parent is more of a responsibility than being married and if a state stops homosexuals from marrying it makes sense they shouldn't be allowed to adopt.

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Originally posted by weymouth I'm for tougher adoption screening all around, no matter if the couple is homosexual, heterosexual, or someone single.

I don't know what to say about this one. I've heard of great people getting turned down on tiny technicalities, and horrible people being approved. Maybe just some more consistancy.

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Originally posted by weymouth I also believe that being a parent is more of a responsibility than being married and if a state stops homosexuals from marrying it makes sense they shouldn't be allowed to adopt.

That's not the reason they don't legalize gay marriage.

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Correct. The reasons are ignorance and religious nonsense.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Correct. The reasons are ignorance and religious nonsense.

I wouldn't say ignorance. The studies out on whether homosexuality is genetic or adaptive are not done yet, at least not to the point where one can definitively say that it is the product of one or the other. Once they are, then one side won't have a leg to stand on anymore, whichever side that winds up being. From what I've read so far, though, that side looks to be the side of those who oppose gay marriage. Like I said, though, it's not conclusive yet (at least not consistently enough from study to study...there are some on each side that claim to be absolute, but are not).

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Originally posted by Plump Funk Gay couples go through tough and rough procedures just to get approved, and being constantly evaluated to see if they're fit to raise a child, putting that much effort and time shows to me they really want a child and know what they are getting into. It takes months even years for that to happen unlike straight couples where a five minute lay would do the job then call it a mistake, with gay couples it’s never a mistake they know fully well what they're getting into. I also believe if more Gay couples adopt kids it would be a far more tolerant society in the future.

agreed 100%

with each generation, western society opens up more and more. allowing gay couples to adopt will further this, which is a good thing. fighting against legislation such as this promotes the homophobic tendencies which show up in our children in the playgrounds. sooner we accept, the sooner the children won't even consider this to be an issue to tease about

in the US about half of marriages end in divorce. teenage single mothers are a norm. parents are rarely around to be parents. if you have 2 people seriously committed to having and raising a child (which the adoption process would help determine) then i'd be more inclined to have them raise a child then all the fucking horrible hetero parents out there



plus, other countries are able to make the move and it seems to be working there

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous I wouldn't say ignorance. The studies out on whether homosexuality is genetic or adaptive are not done yet, at least not to the point where one can definitively say that it is the product of one or the other. Once they are, then one side won't have a leg to stand on anymore, whichever side that winds up being. From what I've read so far, though, that side looks to be the side of those who oppose gay marriage. Like I said, though, it's not conclusive yet (at least not consistently enough from study to study...there are some on each side that claim to be absolute, but are not).

Whether homosexuality is genetic or natal or environmental or whatever has nothing at all to do with whether homosexuality and homosexual marriage are ethical. The arguments that they are unethical are asinine without exception, and almost all inspired by the scrawlings of certain ancient desert tribes.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The arguments that they are unethical are asinine without exception, and almost all inspired by the scrawlings of certain ancient desert tribes.

Well-put

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Whether homosexuality is genetic or natal or environmental or whatever has nothing at all to do with whether homosexuality and homosexual marriage are ethical. The arguments that they are unethical are asinine without exception, and almost all inspired by the scrawlings of certain ancient desert tribes.

lol, but:

It's not about ethical vs. unethical.

Whether you agree or disagree for whatever religious reasons or otherwise, if it is proven to be determined at birth, end of argument. At that point, you cannot sanely be against it. However, if it's proven otherwise, the argument will still continue. I suppose I phrased that 2nd part poorly.

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Whether you agree or disagree for whatever religious reasons or otherwise, if it is proven to be determined at birth, end of argument. At that point, you cannot sanely be against it.

This is incorrect. Poor development of some parts of the brain, which may be due to either genes or natal environment, may predispose people to violence or theft or other impulsive actions. The fact that some people may commit such acts partly because of genetic factors does not mean that we should stop jailing people for them or trying to prevent them. There are good reasons to want to keep such people in places where they can't harm others.

But the thing about homosexuality and homosexual marriage is that they harm nobody* and thus should be permitted, whether they are "genetic" or not.

* Unless you are one of those idiots who thinks that being gay "harms a person's soul" or somesuch. But the law deals with harm to bodies and property, not to souls, so there are still no grounds for legal action.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan My stance is they shouldn't be aloud to adopt children. A child needs a Mother and Father. Not two Fathers and not two Mothers. A child adopted by a same sex marriage will be ridiculed and bullied in school. It's unfair on the kid at the end of the day.

So single parents shouldnt be allowed to adopt?

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Originally posted by Sunsnail So single parents shouldnt be allowed to adopt?

Since were on topic, are you & Eros gonna adopt.?

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