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Originally posted by Q5echo i was in the military for almost 10 yrs.. still have no idea what exactly i was indoctrinated to. we were once submerged off the coast of this real poor fishing village just watching and listening. all around us were these small fishing junks. they were like large dingy's with two man crews tending their nets. we had to weave our way in and around these junks for days undetected 24/7. it so sucked like you wouldn't believe because it was my responsibility to track and monitor every single one of these junks within a certain radius and recomend to the OOD different courses. anyway to make a long story short we end up catching one of these drift nets. we could tell because we could see these orange floats following us everywhere about a 1000' behind us through the scope. we had to dive and leave the area and speed up to tear off this poor guys net off of us. couldn't tell you how long this poor bastard had to work to buy his net, or how long he had been using it to provide for his family all i know is we drug it 10 miles out to sea for no good reason but to get some lousy intel.

Cool. We're you a sonar operator? No disrespect with what you did, but I have mad respect for cold war submariners beyond your time. I read blind's man bluff and I heard about some of the crazy things that submariners went through during the cold war. Things that brought us to the brink of WWIII.

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i was an FT (Fire Control Technician). Sonar would send me their tracker data (basically an electronic point in the water called FIDUs or Fixed Interval Data Units converted from sound hydrophones on whatever array they are using wether its hull array, spherical array or towed array) every few seconds or so and i would stack these FIDU's over time and using basic trig programs could figure out what the course, speed and range of the contact. if we wanted to shoot the contact i would dump that course,speed and range data or Fire Control Solution into a torpedo and send it on its merry way. i was petty good at it but naturally the higher contact density of the environment would be proportionally more difficult. there were up to four Sonar operators each monitoring up to umpteen different trackers and only one or two of me, each contact having its own relavance.

the old school guys like the have the most respect because they did all that shit manually on special slide rules and computers with gears in them. couldn't imagine really.

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Originally posted by occrider I read blind's man bluff and I heard about some of the crazy things that submariners went through during the cold war. Things that brought us to the brink of WWIII.

great book. people still don't realize how close we came on several occasions. f**kin nuts! the U.S.S Parche is still a legend in it's own time for some of the shit it's done. i went on board her in New London and Pearl Harbor because i knew a couple of her sonar techs.
she's been replaced by the new modified Virginia Class the Jimmy Carter but that boat will never do some of the stuff the Parche did.

what people also don't realize is that we're still fighting an underwater cold war to this day except with another country.

That's pretty wild. Must be tense down there.
Crimson Tide was such a great movie. Also the
parts in Tom Clancy books with subs are some
of my favorite. Ever transport any Seals or
Marines?

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Ever transport any Seals or Marines?

yeah Crimson Tide was about a Trident SSBN. completely different world they operate in. i've worked on a few but never underway.

when i was on this boat



we trained with SEALs a few times using the new (new to us. it was retrofitted from the Archerfish) DDS or Dry Deck Shelter. its basically a hanger for their 4 man mini sub they use to compromise foreign harbors undetected. it also has a small hyperbaric chamber so they can decompress in emergencies.

i don't know if you remember hurricane Jorges several years back when it buttraped the entire Caribean. we were practicing with the SEALs and their new toys about 15 miles south of Puerto Rico. we were told to secure and go deep to let Jorges pass over us. well, the SEALs wanted desperately to get back to their unit in Rosie Roads to help prepare for this major hurricane. no shit, they asked the Captain if we could come to periscope depth and let them out through the DDS so they could swim 15+ miles back to base! the Captain didn't let them. luckily Rosie roads was just grazed by Jorges.

SEALs are just badasses no ifs ands or buts, but they look like regular dudes. theres short ones, tall ones and skinny ones even some pudgy ones. they're, for the most part, very quiet down to earth regular type people but a bit more focused and know how to handle themselves with any kind of weapon imaginable. it's their compliment of divers that come with them that causes headaches underway. for every squad of SEALs that got underway with us they always have about twice as many diver fags that come with them to do all their grunt work like carry their equipment, line-up and turn valves, phone talking, basically their butt-boys. they always talk shit and they always have something to prove (something your prolly familiar with being a Marine). SEALs have NOTHING to prove. they just sit around and read or do pull-ups and drink all the milk.

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Nice, informative. Spent last night at work reading alittle
on the U.S.S. Scorpian and the Russian K-129 sinkings.
Some interesting stuff, I wonder what the real story behind
those two were.

Oh and I got a question, with the nuclear torpedoes, wouldn't
the sub that fired them get at least damaged if not sunk
by firing one at enemies in torpedo range? The range can't
be that much on the torpedoes without them being very near
to the blast right?

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As the highest american military ranking person here..... you two need to keep it down...