I am looking for something like the vanguard gate/mstriggergate, but far more advanced...
In the gates mentioned above you just put blocks on or off (fruity style)... I want to be able to see a window and draw a line with a pencil tool which controls the volume of a vst instrument...
something like this:
i know this can be done in fl with the event editor on the volume knob, but i am searching for a vst which does this over a loop of 8 beats constantly (it has to synchronize with the host's bpm too)
i hope you understand, sorry for the long post, but this is really important for me to improve my music
anyone know of such a vst effect?
Aug-06-2005 18:23
everyMan
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Paris, France
If the goal is to avoid drawing the automation all track long, you can do an 8 beat pattern wich automate the volume and repeat it in the playlist window.
If you really want to use a vst I dont understand why?
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Aug-06-2005 18:48
Thois
a.k.a. Iolis
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Netherlands
quote:
Originally posted by everyMan
If the goal is to avoid drawing the automation all track long, you can do an 8 beat pattern wich automate the volume and repeat it in the playlist window.
If you really want to use a vst I dont understand why?
Well i am planning to change to Ableton Live, so in that program i wont be able to draw the automation like in the event editor of fl studio i guess...
+ I noticed using the event editor in fl studio on volume knobs take quite some amount of cpu power
Aug-06-2005 19:10
everyMan
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Paris, France
Do you use Reaktor 5 ?
I think you can create an similar effect with.
There are drawed enveloppes with loop points and BPM sync like the FM7 enveloppes.
You can easily assign the enveloppe to control the volume input.
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Aug-06-2005 21:01
I_LUV_PVD
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: United States
who told you you can't draw automation in ableton live?
Aug-06-2005 23:55
slawekmx
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Jan 2005
Location:
try camelspace
is nice vst-fx plugin with trance gate (more advanced than vanguard trancegate) ,delay,reverb and filters
Aug-07-2005 00:15
Rusty O'Hara
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Here, Now
What "everyman" said... you don't need a vst effect to do this for you.
Either just draw the automation for the actual midi part or just create a 2nd part purely for "controller" purposes; and assign this to the same midi/vst channel.
If you have a 8 bar loop, looped 4 times (32) then you could apply your "gate loop" on a new track and have that running at any length you want.
BTW, You can draw automation in Ableton.
Sounds to me like you are already doing what you want to be doing; and one advantage of using midi will be it will be synced as/when you choose; not limited to the constraints of a vst plugin.
Aug-07-2005 00:42
Sean Walsh
JAGERMAESTRO
Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Downtown Vancouver
You definitely can do that in Ableton.
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Aug-07-2005 02:10
Thois
a.k.a. Iolis
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Netherlands
ok thanks guys, really helped me out
Aug-07-2005 15:43
nhibberd
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Utrecht, Netherlands
Still think you would need quite a fast computer though on the faster automations. Or you will get latency prety badly. It might be alright on mixdown though.
Music is as universal to people as breathing. We've probably been at it since before we even started talking. Immaging two cavemen smashing away at a peace of flint to make a spearhead. It wouldn't take long for them to learn te synchronise the sound. And there you have it, the words first percussive band.
Music has survived wars, famines, the plague and many other things and has evolved with man across many cultures. Dance music is just the next step in the evolutionary chain. My guess is that it will probably be with us untill we are extinced.
