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| amit |
i dont know if you heard...but the rave act passed. it was tagged with Amber Act. it passed congress on thursday. its on its way to the senate
well i dont know if you want to take this seriously. but i am offended! i am still young 18...and if i dont get to spin @ clubs, and wmc i am going to be pissed. i want djs to rock my tunes + and 1 day i want to hear them @ clubs all over the world. if this bill passes then...say good bye to my dreams!
please sign this and send it to your friends!
(write your email address)
http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/...tep=2&item=1581 |
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| DJ $tylez |
| :whip: That sucks but don't give up hope just yet, at least some of the vague wording was removed but still...:( |
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| beema |
goddamn ing bull
if this goes down, Im moving to Holland so I can ing spin at clubs |
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| trancemandan |
| :conf: :conf: People Still Go To Raves:conf: :conf: |
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| webbie |
Anyone care to explain to an outsider what this act will do?
In Sweden we have this police. Its called the "ravecommision", a
police specially created to go to parties, drag ppl out of there and
test them for drugs. A big Swedish newspaper (a trustworthy one, not a tabloid)
had a good article about em 2 years ago, apparentlty they are employing
some rather nasty techniques.
Leaving people in what can more be described as storage rooms then
cells, with no possibility to sit, lie down or even use a toilet.
They leave them there for hours in a time, without notifing them
about what they might be under suspicion for, often they are just
released a few hours later.
Its so sick. |
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| DJPrototypeX |
| quote: | Originally posted by amit
well i dont know if you want to take this seriously. but i am offended! i am still young 18...and if i dont get to spin @ clubs, and wmc i am going to be pissed. i want djs to rock my tunes + and 1 day i want to hear them @ clubs all over the world. if this bill passes then...say good bye to my dreams! |
u read my mind:D...this is a sad day though...this really sux...no ones bustin on the hip hop/rap or rock stuff...y electronic>? |
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| jploveparade |
| Don't move here all at the same time. We're just a small country you know ;) |
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| E\/AN AL|\/|AE |
I just want to get something clear that I'm not quite understanding. Is this law going to do away with clubs in the US??? Cause if it is, I honestly think this is virtually impossible. I live in Austin, and I was wondering what the would happen to 6th street if this happened. There would be no 6th street, perhaps. This isn't going to happen in my opinion, there is no way. Someone inform how this is going to work, cause I dunno!
peace,
Steve |
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| MisterOpus1 |
Here's a letter from the Drug Policy Alliance:
Dear Members, Subscribers and Friends,
I do not normally use our alert channel to send a personal message.
However, I wanted to let you know that the Illicit Drug Anti-
Proliferation Act (also called the "RAVE Act"), which was attached to
the AMBER Alert bill, passed both the House and Senate late yesterday
(April 10).
The RAVE Act threatens free speech and musical expression while
placing at risk any hotel/motel owner, concert promoter, event
organizer, nightclub owner or arena/stadium owner for the drug
violations of 3rd parties - real or alleged - even if the event
promoter and/or property owner made a good-faith effort to keep their
event drug-free. It applies not just to electronic-music parties,
but to any type of public gathering, including theatrical
productions, rock concerts, DJ nights at local bars, and potentially
even political rallies. It gives heightened powers and discretion to
prosecutors, who may use it to target events they personally don't
like - such as Hip-Hop events and gay and lesbian fundraisers.
Sadly, the RAVE Act was added to the AMBER Alert bill conference
report at the very last minute by Senator Biden (D-DE), its original
sponsor. The AMBER Alert bill creates a system for responding to
child abduction. It has nothing to do with drug policy. The RAVE
Act had not passed even a single committee in the House or Senate
this year. One senator's pet issue made a mockery of the Democratic
process - becoming law without any public hearing or opportunity for
input whatsoever.
You should be aware that your letters and faxes clearly had an
effect. (FYI - you sent Congress 13,000 faxes this week alone!!)
For example, the word "rave" was removed from the version of the bill
that passed. Eliminating such blatant discrimination is a victory
for our continued freedom of speech. Also, the original bill
suggested that prosecutors should view the sale of water and the
presence of glowsticks or massage oil as evidence of drug use. These
ludicrous "findings" were completely removed thanks to you.
President Bush will sign this child abduction bill, which means the
RAVE Act will become law as well. We will be working with the
legislators who opposed this provision - such as Senators Durbin,
Kennedy and Leahy and Representatives Conyers and Scott - for its
repeal. In the meantime, however, it is up to all of us to be the
watchdogs of its enforcement.
Attorney General John Ashcroft will have to make decisions about its
enforcement priority among the many public safety issues the
Department of Justice handles. He must be held responsible when he
implements this scheme. We want him to know that he is not free to
shut down our dance clubs, our festivals and our freedoms. We will
be watching the activities of law enforcement and prosecutors, and we
will act when our rights are violated. You can help us by faxing
Attorney General Ashcroft here.
http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/...tep=2&item=1581
We thank our many partners in this effort for your hard work: EM:DEF,
ROAR, Buzzlife Productions, Davey D., electronic dance and music
organizations throughout the U.S., club owners, hotel organizations,
beverage and licensing groups, the ACLU and many, many others. But
most of all, I want to say thank you personally to our members and
supporters.
You truly deserve credit for reacting so quickly and so forcefully.
It has really been amazing. When Bill McColl, our Director of
National Affairs, told me about this issue last June he said that he
thought the RAVE Act would pass in about 2 weeks. You proved us
wrong. It took 10 months, a change in control of the Senate,
backroom maneuverings and substantial changes to the bill. I'm
proud of the hard work of our members, friends and our coalition.
Rest assured we will continue to work together to mobilize opposition
and advocate to fix this dangerous law.
Sincerely,
Ethan Nadelmann
Executive Director
Drug Policy Alliance
3 words: Bullsh$t! Bullsh$t! Bullsh$t! |
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| RnakR |
now how will they call it ???
Operation Liberation of Young electronic music lovers :rolleyes:
poor USAs |
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| Trance_A_Holik |
| quote: | Originally posted by RnakR
now how will they call it ???
Operation Liberation of Young electronic music lovers :rolleyes:
poor USAs |
so tru. so when does this bull go under affect? |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance_A_Holik
so tru. so when does this bull go under affect? |
As soon as Bush signs it, which I surmise he'll do so within the next few days or so. The Amber Alert Bill gave it so much weight that it was going to be easily passed. The question now is how will each state enforce this law? Potentially speaking, they could easily shut down every single dance club and/or RAVE across the country with the language of the Bill. My guess is it will have some impact on organized raves, but not so much on clubs. They will likely target clubs that are suspect and/or may be having problems in other areas like neighborhood disturbances, disorderly conducts, drinking and driving accidents, etc.
But for the most part, I don't think it will effect too many clubs, provided they keep their clean. Harder security checks will take place, and better pat-downs will be more prevalent. Besides, there's still room for lawsuits from ACLU and other organizations when a wrongful shutdown and arrest occurs (and there most certainly will be one). Here's to hoping for the best. |
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