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Fight the Rave Act...the rave act passed :(
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| amit |
Dear Friends and Supporters,
Today, President Bush signed the RAVE Act into law. Although it's a
sad day for American freedom, I am also proud. I'm proud to be part
of the thousands of people who, like you, came together to oppose the
RAVE Act. I'm proud that your opposition made waves on Capitol Hill - waves that are seldom felt in Washington when it comes to draconian
drug war bills.
The RAVE Act's sponsor, Senator Biden, angrily deplored the fact that
his bill faced "fierce resistance." He then denounced Drug Policy
Alliance in the official Congressional Record. Senator Leahy, one of
two original co-sponsors of the RAVE Act that you helped turn against
the bill, told reporters the RAVE Act faced "serious grass-roots
opposition."
"Fierce resistance"? "Serious grass-roots opposition"? I like that
and I've got one thing to say.
We've just begun to fight, Senator Biden!!!!
With your support, we will take on Attorney General John Ashcroft and
the DEA every time they use the RAVE Act to try to shut down
electronic dance events, raves, rock and hip hop concerts, hemp
festivals, circuit parties, and other events. We will organize
thousands of people to oppose this new government intrusion. We will
launch an aggressive and relentless lobbying campaign to repeal the
RAVE Act.
To do it, we need your help. This campaign costs real money.
Contributions from people like you help us pay for lobbyists,
grassroots organizing, and all the faxes we send to Congressional
offices. If everyone on our 43,000 subscriber e-mail list gave us
just $10 we would have what we need to repeal the RAVE Act. If
you're willing to pay more than $10 to see your favorite shows,
wouldn't you be willing to give at least $10 to protect them?
Will you commit to this fight and help us overturn this bad
legislation? Since not everyone will be able to help us out, we ask
that you consider giving $20 or more. Please donate $10, $20, $50,
$100, $500, $1,000 or whatever you can afford at:
/secure.ga3.org/05/raveact
If you're not convinced let us tell you one last thing. There's an
iron law in Washington -- the more members you have, the more
politicians listen. Because many of you have already taken action
against the RAVE Act, if you donate $10 or more we will make you a
member of the Alliance. That's $25 less than our regular dues and it
will help us become even more effective!
The Drug Policy Alliance is committed to changing how our nation
deals with drugs and drug abuse. We believe that people who use
drugs and do no harm to others are no business of the state. We
believe that people who have problems with drugs deserve help, not
punishment. We believe that people who hurt others should be brought
to justice, whether or not they are under the influence of drugs. We
believe, in short, in freedom, compassion, and responsibility.
To reach that point we need more people like you to step forward with
action and financial support. Please respond today!
Sincerely,
Ethan Nadelmann
Executive Director |
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| amit |
| i donated 10 dollars...now its your turn |
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| Nadi |
| He didnt sign the rave act, he signed the amber alert act, which for some god awful reason has the rave act atached to it. The amber alert act was designed to help locate missing or possibly kidnapped children, of course he signed it. Besides the rave act isnt that bad, it just means that the orginization were you take your pills can be held acountable if they know who's dealing, or if they're taking a cut. I don't see what the big deal is. |
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| OhioTranceFan |
| Actually, if im not mistaken, the 'Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act (formerly known as the RAVE Act)'states that if theres any drug sale or use alleged or real, the promoter is also held responsible, whether they know or not. It also kind of means the police can break up any party, gathering, even club event where they think drug use is going on. |
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| Micheline |
| i will give you 10 dollars, but what can i get from it? |
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| Prototrance |
Do you really reckon that the US government is going to listen to us lot?? It would just class us a pill munchers anyway. Bush didnt listen to the UN security council and international consensus over Iraq (correctly IMO) so he's not going to listen to ravers is he?
We had/have (depends how you look at it) a similar situation in the UK - The 1994 Criminal justice act. This banned outdoor 'raves' of over 99 people that were characterised by 'repetative beat music'. Bearing in mind none of the superclubs were kicking around, dance music didnt have an outlet. Eventually this law became relaxed, but has not had its wording changed. Special agreements with local councils have to be reached so we can have GC SSS, GK GG, Homelands and Creamfields.
Its bollocks - em and Their law:whip: |
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| ne1seenmykeys |
I hate to tell you all this, but anyone that tells you the RAVE act was passed is lying out of their ass. If you will go to www.congress.gov , you will see that the Amber Act was passed, the RAVE act was not. it was NOT attatched to the AMBER act. It is still a seperate bill. Want proof????
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query...p/~c108vBr2d3::
Anyone that has donated to this guy's fake cause is just feeding money to his personal paypal account or whatever he's using to get your money. Seriously people, PLEASE don't give this guy or anyone like him any of your money. And for God's sake, do your research!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. If you search for RAVE Act, you will see that it is still not passed, or attacted to anything else. Anything else is just a hoax. |
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| Verona^My |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nadi
He didnt sign the rave act, he signed the amber alert act, which for some god awful reason has the rave act atached to it. The amber alert act was designed to help locate missing or possibly kidnapped children, of course he signed it. Besides the rave act isnt that bad, it just means that the orginization were you take your pills can be held acountable if they know who's dealing, or if they're taking a cut. I don't see what the big deal is. |
I wish we had a line item veto, quite possibly the most godly legislation not yet passed. |
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| djSlain |
i have mixed feelings about the rave acts. I absolutely love clubs and raves around my area (southern california). I've seen the local talent as well as the great Sasha and Digweed, superb shows. On one side, i do agree that there is massive drug use in these events. If u live in america, u must abide by the rules and not blame the government because "they don't let us use drugs", which has been the only reason justified by chemical using clubbbers/ravers.
I have never used drugs, yet my freedom to attend clubs/raves is now washed away because people feel the club/rave scene cannot go on without drugs, which is absolutley ridiculous and unfair. If i can have a blast and an absolutely euphoric exerience without drugs, so can everyone else. If u need to do drugs to have a good time, u are obviously not going for the music or the celebrity of DJs.
The RAVE act is soley based on the use of drugs. It's not about congestion of traffic, it's not about the noise level, it's not about overpopulated clubs with no fire hazards, etc. It's the drugs. We get rid of the drugs, we get our freedom to assemble in recreation safely and without harassement.
on the other hand, i feel that RAVE is a bit too broad and has an absolutely tryanic (sp?) way of stopping clubs and raves. They want to shut down gatherings, that's it. Whereever there is electronic music, boom, raid and shut down. In a previous thread, someone made a great analogy about red lights and people who drive through them. there are going to be People who gonna drive through red lights, does that mean cars should be illegal?
I think the RAVE act should simply create a division to find drugs and druggies without interrupting the entertainment inside the venue. Sure, undercover cops is fine. But perheaps they (the government) should send their own super official bouncers to keep drugs out of the scene. That way the druggies can go home and smoke their crack or whatever, and us clean ones can have an enjoyable, dancing, talking to DJs, socializing without further harrassment from feds, police or security |
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| DJ Nuclear |
| quote: | Originally posted by OhioTranceFan
Actually, if im not mistaken, the 'Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act (formerly known as the RAVE Act)'states that if theres any drug sale or use alleged or real, the promoter is also held responsible, whether they know or not. It also kind of means the police can break up any party, gathering, even club event where they think drug use is going on. |
The bills (in its independent form) I thought stated that that you could only be held responsible for drugs at your event if you had knowledge of their existence and use. I guess this means you can't smoke pot/drop pills (visibly) inside a club anymore. |
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| DJ Dingel |
It was going to be defeated as a separate bill, so Senator Biden attached it to the Amber Alert bill in conference committee... The only way to get stuff passed is to make it a rider these days....
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread15994.shtml |
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