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| Galapidate |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
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can you give quotes that say he is a racist and you are not?
and can you give some other TA"s who are from israel and on the right wing and you have not flammed?
proove me this and you are an innocente man:happy2: [/QUOTE]
Yes, please do. |
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| hehehe....the trial of joeh152 is now in session! (it's a joke, don't flip) :D |
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| che |
| is israel the US's bitch or the other way around?? just a though. Actually probably about 1/2 of the US government is jewish, i have the names and positions somewhere, if anyone wants them i can post them. Hence maybe the love relationship between the two countries. They're eachothers bitches. And about the fact that the Israeli government would be less aggresive if there werent so many terrorist attacks.....hahahaha...you got to be kidding me..... |
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| joeh152 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
can you give quotes that say he is a racist and you are not?
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I really cant be arsed to search through the hundreds of threads that he's created, but if you look back at them yourself, I am sure you will find several anti-arab posts/remarks.
As for me, I do not believe I have ever made a racist remark in my life, or even laughed at a racist joke, it is offensive that anyone would suggest that i have.
An anti-Israel view is not racist, as its a hate for the government etc. rather than the people.
People who are anti-US on this board are never accused of racism now, are they? So don't be silly enough to to suggest that your great religion would be tied in to the goverment of just one country.
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
and can you give some other TA's who are from israel and on the right wing and you have not flammed?
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Well I don't know the names, but I dont believe I have ever flamed any Israeli TA other than Meelech_Mike. The only pro israeli TA other than him who's name comes to mind would be Izzy - but im sure if you search back through the archives in here you will find many dozens of Israeli TA's, none of which I have flamed.
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
proove me this and you are an innocente man:happy2: |
Am i innocent then? :rolleyes: |
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| Galapidate |
| quote: | Originally posted by che
is israel the US's bitch or the other way around?? just a though. Actually probably about 1/2 of the US government is jewish, i have the names and positions somewhere, if anyone wants them i can post them. Hence maybe the love relationship between the two countries. They're eachothers bitches. And about the fact that the Israeli government would be less aggresive if there werent so many terrorist attacks.....hahahaha...you got to be kidding me..... |
Since when has this become a "who's bitch is who" discussion? It's inaccurate to say that 1/2 the U.S. government is Jewish since the only prominent figures are Ari Fleischer, who's resigning this summer, and Wolfowitz, who nobody listens to. About Israel's aggression due to terrorist attacks, Israel is not seeking to cause harm to the Palestinians. They, like the U.S., want to rid the area of terror. Unfortunately, with modern weapons, innocent civilians get in the way, hence why we hear about civilians being caught in the crossfire. IF there was no Hamas or any other terror in Israel, I doubt that Israeli forces would launch attacks in the West Bank and Gaza. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
Since when has this become a "who's bitch is who" discussion? It's inaccurate to say that 1/2 the U.S. government is Jewish since the only prominent figures are Ari Fleischer, who's resigning this summer, and Wolfowitz, who nobody listens to. About Israel's aggression due to terrorist attacks, Israel is not seeking to cause harm to the Palestinians. They, like the U.S., want to rid the area of terror. Unfortunately, with modern weapons, innocent civilians get in the way, hence why we hear about civilians being caught in the crossfire. IF there was no Hamas or any other terror in Israel, I doubt that Israeli forces would launch attacks in the West Bank and Gaza. |
Would you also doubt that they would occupy their land? |
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| Galapidate |
| Yes, I would, because there would be no need for invasion of their land if there is peace in the region. This peace, however, is disrupted by Hamas. Hamas has announced that there will be no cease-fire, while Israelis and Palestinians who do not condone Hamas' actions want to achieve peace in the region. Can't you see that Hamas is preventing this from happening? |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
Yes, I would, because there would be no need for invasion of their land if there is peace in the region. This peace, however, is disrupted by Hamas. Hamas has announced that there will be no cease-fire, while Israelis and Palestinians who do not condone Hamas' actions want to achieve peace in the region. Can't you see that Hamas is preventing this from happening? |
I mean settlement building for those jews who truly beleive that the land in which palestinians live on is rightfully theirs. |
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| Galapidate |
| But lots of legal Jewish settlements are being taken down by the Israeli government in return for ceasing of attacks. I'm sure Israel would give up it's settlements for that. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
But lots of legal Jewish settlements are being taken down by the Israeli government in return for ceasing of attacks. I'm sure Israel would give up it's settlements for that. |
only time will tell |
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
only time will tell |
How can you be so sure that the Palestinians will cease the attacks? Can time tell us that too? I think the only thing that time will reveal is the massive bodycount that is going to result from this entire situation.
It is also my belief that the only way this will be settled would be to completely disband the current political wing of the PLO. Obviously, Abbas is weak and does not have a definitive say in Palestinian matters. The Palestinain people do not have a strong, prominent voice. They're lives are being dicatated to them by radical, fundamentalist s. The only way that this "situation" will come to an end is when I RULE THE EARTH!!:rolleyes: |
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| melech_mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
I mean settlement building for those jews who truly beleive that the land in which palestinians live on is rightfully theirs. |
It's not a question of whether or not it's their land... IT IS!
It's a question of whether or not they will give up their lands for peace -- a "peace" that has once and again proven itself to be the ty end of the stick for the Israelis. |
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