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Trance Bass revealed. Motorcycle- ATRC (avb mix) dissected.
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| dj-sean |
Since good, rich basslines have troubled me since the start of my producing days, I've decided to help you guys out and dissect the bassline from the AvB remix of As the Rush Comes.
Here's how it works:
http://flamevault.com/~celerity/atrc%20sub%20bass.mp3
First we have the sub bass. This is the part of the bassline that actually thumps on the subwoofers. No note will fall at the same time as a Kick, otherwise you'll blow your speakers (unless you're using a kick that has no bass in it, but that's not how it works in this case). This was created with the Junglist VSTi, using the first preset and changing the ADSR envelope on the Amp and making a few other small tweaks as necessary. EQ it with a subwoofer handy.
http://flamevault.com/~celerity/atrc%20echo%20bass.mp3
Next we have the part that gives the richness/fullness to the bass. This is echoed with a 2 tick delay on the left channel and 3 tick delay on the right. A highpass filter is run over this cutting everything below 650hz, thereby allowing the notes to echo to your hearts desire without making it sound like and have bass everywhere. This was used with the VoidSynthII that comes standard with buzz, with small tweaks to one of the presets on it.
http://flamevault.com/~celerity/atrc%20perc%20bass.mp3
Next we have the high part of the bass; pretty self explanatory. Again, this is run through a highpass filter to get rid of the bass. This was made with the RGC TriangleII VST, which is free. It's a modification of the "dotted brief" preset.
http://flamevault.com/~celerity/atr...ass%20notes.mp3
Finally we have the 3-note bass stab that kicks in. This is tricky to master as it's still bassy sounding and starts at the same time as the kick. In this case, I have it mastered so that it's above the frequency of the kick by using a highpass filter set to around 340hz. The resonance is also turned up on the filter to make it stick out more. This was also made with the TriangleII, with a tweaked version of the bass007 preset.
http://flamevault.com/~celerity/ATRC%20intro.mp3
This is how it sounds when you put it all together.
Voila, a pretty much identical copy of the bassline that Armin uses. |
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| D South |
Great tutorial.. People should be placing more tutorials liek this that explains in full detail how to achive something ...
2 thumbs up + to toes up...... |
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| DC- |
| I don't hear much "AVBness" to this bassline and while your process isn't incorrect, it is very tedious, nobody goes through this much trouble in creating a bassline most of the time. Addmitedly layering is essential in creating interesting sounds, what you've done is overkill. |
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| mantisnl |
awesome tutorial man!
and DC-, shut up man, he wrote a nice tutorial, and yes lots of people spend a long time on basslines and layer them aswell, this is no overkill:) |
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| dj-sean |
| quote: | Originally posted by DC-
I don't hear much "AVBness" to this bassline and while your process isn't incorrect, it is very tedious, nobody goes through this much trouble in creating a bassline most of the time. Addmitedly layering is essential in creating interesting sounds, what you've done is overkill. |
Armin: http://flamevault.com/~celerity/avb%20sample.mp3
My ripoff: http://flamevault.com/~celerity/ATRC%20intro.mp3
The only thing that sounds a little off is the sub-bass, and that's a 2 note pattern change.
If you can make the same thing in a less tedious manner, then I'm sure we'd all be more than happy for you to enlighten us as to how it can be achieved! |
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| DC- |
I'll just end this before it goes out of hand.
You were right, I was wrong. |
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| kr00t0n |
I make you my subject of the week in my kingdom :D
Cheers dude, thats awesome, I cant wait to get home and start mucking about with em, as I have all those vsti's ;) |
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| Vizay |
really great tutorial...this is what we really need in the forums today instead of all thoose tedious how do I start produce questions :)
and DC-...you'd be suprised of how much work there is to basslines, imo 3 bass-sounds is a small amount of layering :) ;) |
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| Flotser |
it sounds like if you use some penning or even alittle delay it will sound even closer, no? |
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| dbl |
| great tutorial... thank's :) |
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| dj-sean |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
it sounds like if you use some penning or even alittle delay it will sound even closer, no? |
on which part? |
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| >everest< |
| Great tutorial yoof! quite fancy doing one of my own now... |
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