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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by djSlain
god damnit, should i just give up? These posts are getting more numerous and longer. i don't know how long i can keep holding the barrage since my jumbo-size capri sun is almost done. ugh.... can i secede honorably, or should i keep deflecting bullets with my 5star sword |
Research more about the issue, and then you can make educated comments. No I'm not talking about US and UK government propaganda either. No I have nothing against you. |
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| NiteKiD |
| quote: | Originally posted by djSlain
fortune 500 anyone?
i'll get back to this tomorrow morning. i have classes, u know, something that puts people ahead in life, not wasting my life by "woahhhhh mannnnn i'm tripppinnnnnnnnn"
edit: eh it. i'll write something right now and post when i'm done... bored... |
god you're a ing loser...just totally brainwashed.
wow you can take a class...*bows down* |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by djSlain
god damnit, should i just give up? These posts are getting more numerous and longer. i don't know how long i can keep holding the barrage since my jumbo-size capri sun is almost done. ugh.... can i secede honorably, or should i keep deflecting bullets with my 5star sword |
This could be over pretty quickly if ud just be a bit more open minded and willing to accept that drugs arent evil or that ur not always right. Whats the point in u admitting ur wrong if u still dont believe it? Im not arguing just for the sake of it.
So answer my last post.
edit: changed except to accept. doh |
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| djSlain |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
In the time of Jesus Canabinoid oils were used for anointing and as "healing" oils. |
is that for real, or am i buying into something else again??? |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by djSlain
is that for real, or am i buying into something else again??? |
Nobody knows for sure, because of translations of languages and definitions of old words or something |
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by djSlain
is that for real, or am i buying into something else again??? |
I shouldn't have stated it as fact, but there is strong evidence of it's usage in biblical times.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm
| quote: | Cannabis linked to Biblical healing
Many of the miracles concerned healing
Jesus Christ and his apostles may have used a cannabis-based anointing oil to help cure people with crippling diseases, it has been claimed.
Researchers in the United States say the oil used in the early days of the Christian church contained a cannabis extract called kaneh-bosem.
They suggest the extract, which is absorbed into the body when placed on the skin, could have helped cure people with a variety of physical and mental problems.
The medical use of cannabis during that time is supported by archaeological records
Chris Bennet
The author of the article, published in the US drugs magazine High Times, says his findings are based on a study of scriptural texts.
Wide use
The article does not question the validity of the miracles reported in the Bible but rather examines whether the early Christian Church may have made use of substances with an active medical effect.
It does not rule out the role played by blind faith in Christ.
Chris Bennett said cannabis was widely used at the time to heal the sick.
"The medical use of cannabis during that time is supported by archaeological records."
He said the ancient anointing oil contained high levels of cannabis extract.
"The holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus, contained over six pounds of keneh-bosum - a substance identified by respected etymology, linguists anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis extracted into about six quarts of olive oil along with a variety of other fragrant herbs.
"The ancient annointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture."
Miracles
Mr Bennett suggested the drug may have played a role in some healing miracles carried out by Jesus and his disciples.
He wrote: "In the ancient world, diseases such as epilepsy were attributed to demonic possession.
"To cure somebody of such an illness, even with the aid of certain herbs was considered exorcism or miraculous healing.
Jesus often becomes the final hope for the pharmacologically impaired
JesusJournal.com
"Interestingly, cannabis has been shown to be effective in the treatment of not only epilepsy but many of the other ailments that Jesus and the disciples healed people of such as skin diseases, eye problems and menstrual problems."
Mr Bennett said the findings suggested that it was unchristian to persecute people who used cannabis.
"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient Christian anointing oil, as history indicates, and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ."
However, Christian groups in the United States have rejected Mr Bennett's claims.
They have insisted that the arguments made in the article are lame.
In a response to the article published on JesusJournal.com, critics said: "As many of us know firsthand, Jesus often becomes the final hope for the pharmacologically impaired."
John Cunyus, the author of a book on Christian healing, said: "Well, the Bible does say that St. Stephen was stoned... but perhaps not in that sense!" |
Here is a fact though:
Cannabis has much greater potential (known) therapeutic properties in ailing patients than either tobacco or alcohol; both legal drugs. It makes no sense at all that cancer, AIDS, and other patients that could benefit from this kind of therapy should be denied this promising meathod of treatment to fit some kind of closed-minded, moralistic ideology. Oddly enough these people who oppose medicinal marijuana use of any kind often call themselves "Christians.":rolleyes: :whip: |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
I shouldn't have stated it as fact, but there is strong evidence of it's usage in biblical times.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2633187.stm
Here is a fact though:
Cannabis has much greater potential (known) therapeutic properties in ailing patients than either tobacco or alcohol; both legal drugs. It makes no sense at all that cancer, AIDS, and other patients that could benefit from this kind of therapy should be denied this promising meathod of treatment to fit some kind of closed-minded, moralistic ideology. Oddly enough these people who oppose medicinal marijuana use of any kind often call themselves "Christians.":rolleyes: :whip: |
Yeah, cannabis really is an unbelievable useful plant, probably more than any other. And on top of all the practical uses, u can smoke it and it makes u feel great. Id say it was rightly worth its weight in gold, if this wasnt a side effect of prohibiton. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
Well here that link i promised :D
Im sure some of the names here will surprise people.
http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm
Almost everyones name is linked to more info on the site, so if u dont believe it about someone or whatever click their link. Also theres a couple of links to similar lists.
Aaron Sorkin, creator of ''The West Wing".
Abbie Hoffman, Activist.
Al and Tipper Gore Politicians
Aleister Crowley, Author and Famous Satanist.
Alexander Dumas, Author - "The Three Musketeers"
Ali Campbell, Singer with UB40
Alice B. Toklas. Famous Cook - Wrote recipe for Hash Fudge Filmed as. 'I Love You Alice B. Toklas'
Allen Ginsberg, Poet.
Andrea Corr, musician, "The Corrs".
Anjelica Huston, Actress.
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Actor. ``I did smoke a joint and I did inhale.''
Arthur Rimbaud.
Balzac.
Beatles.
Benjamin Franklin, Many claims but little proof.
Bill "...but I didn't inhale." Clinton, Politician.
Bill Gates. Not confirmed, just very strongly hinted at in his Playboy interview.
Bill Murray Arrested for possession.
Bing Crosby. Famous crooner of "I'm dreaming of a White Christmas". Now the Film "High Society" makes sense!
Bix Beiderbecke Jazz musician.
Black Crowes, musicians
Bob Denver, Star of "Gilligan's Island".
Bob Dylan, musician.
Bob Marley, musician
Burt Reynolds, actor. He left his first wife because of her drug use. But he has been seen in Cannabis Cafes.
Bruce Lee.
Cab Calloway, Jazz musician. Claimed he only used it once.
Carl Sagan, Scientist - SiFi writer - film "Contact" More info here.
Carlos Santana musician.
Carrie Fischer, Actress
Charlie Sheen, actor.
Charles Beaudelaire, Author.
Cheech Marin, Actor, Don Johnson's sidekick in the TV detective series "Nash Bridges."
Chris Conrad, Author and expert on Cannabis Hemp
Chris Farley. Comedian.
Chrissie Hynde, musician.
Chris Rock, Actor, Comedian, Producer, Screenwriter.
Chubby Checker, Musician. Sang; "Lets Twist Again".
Cilla Black, Musician and presenter. Tried it in the '60's but didn't like it.
Claire Rayner, Agony Aunt.
Conan O'Brian TV Host
Count Basie, Jazz Ban Leader. He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Dame Margot Fonteyn, Prima ballerina. Also see entries for Rudolf Nureyev.
David Bailey, Photographer .
Dan Quayle . Politician.
David Hockney, Artist.
Diego Rivera Mexican Artist
Dion Fortune Welsh occultist.
Dionne Warwick, Famous singer of "Walk on by".
Dioscorides Pedanius, 1 st cent. AD. Greek physician. Wrote 'De Materia Medica', used for 1,500 years.
Dizzy Gillespie, Jazz musician He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Dr Francis Crick. Nobel Prize winner.
Dr Lester Grinspoon.
Dr R.D.Laing
Dr W.B. O'Shaugnessy Re-introduced cannabis to European medicine.
Drew Barrymore, actress.
Duke Ellington, Jazz Band Leader. He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Elliott Gould. Actor.
Eminem, musician.
Emperor Liu Chi-nu, made medical recomendation for its use.
Emperor Shen-Nung, made first known medical recommendation for its use.
Errol Flynn, Actor
Evelyn Waugh. Author.
Francis Ford Coppella, Film Director. Mentioned in "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" by Peter Biskind
Fats Waller, musician.
Fitz Hugh Ludlow - wrote 'The Hasheesh Eater'.
Francois Rabelais. 16 th French author. Recommended it as a food not a high.
Friedrich Nietzsche, Used it as a medicine.
Gary Johnson. Governor of New Mexico - Reformer.
Gene Krupa, Jazz musician.
George Gurdjieff , Russian Mystic.
George W Bush Politician and professional hypocrite.
George Melly, Jazz musician.
George Soros, Financier and reformer.
George Washington , grew it and there is evidence that he prepared it for smoking.
And incidentally many other US presidents use to smoke Hemp.
Thomas Jefferson.
James Madison.
James Monroe.
Andrew Jackson,
Zachary Taylor.
Franklin Pierce.
Also see entries for Bill Clinton and George Bush.
Gerard de Nerval French writer
Graham Greene, Author.
Grateful Dead musicians.
Harrison Ford, Actor. This is a claim made by Bill Maher that has not been denied.
Hasan I-Sabah (Hasan-bin-Sabah) Leader of the Assassins.
Heinrich Khunrath, Medieval Alchemist. and Philosopher.
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. Russian Theosophist.
Henri Michaux poet and painter
Howard Marks. Ex-smuggler and Raconteur.
H R H Prince Harry, Third in line to the British throne.
H R H Princess Margaret, sister to Her Majesty the Queen. Her son disputes the claim.
Howard Stern, admitted it on the radio.
Hua T'o Medical use as anaesthetic .
Hunter S. Thompson, Author
Isabel Allende, Chilean author. Mentioned in her book "Paula".
Jack Kerouac, Author
Jack Nicholson, actor.
Jackie Gleason, actor. Another whom the DEA kept on their pot files.
James Brown, musician
Janis Joplin, musician. Tried it but "... she didn't like marijuana, it gave her the jitters."
Jane Fonda, Actress.
Jennifer Aniston, actress. "I enjoy smoking cannabis and see no harm in it", Daily Mail, 11/9/01.
Jennifer Capriati, Tennis champ.
Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota.
Jesus Christ. 'healed using cannabis'.
Jim Morrison, musician.
Jimmy Dorsey, Jazz musician, He was on an DEA file of marijuana users.
Jimmy Hendrix, musician
Joan of Arc, was accused of using witch herbs (another name for cannabis).
John Belushi, actor. Perhaps not a particularly good role model!
John Denver, musician. He recorded a song about it.
John F Kennedy. Politician.
John Lennon. musician.
John Le Mesurier. Actor. Tried it but said it's not for him.
John Wayne, Actor, "I tried it once but it didn't do anything to me."
Jonathan Miller, Theatre Director.
Johnny Cash, musician. Sang songs for NORML album.
Jon Snow, Channel 4 News presenter. (UK)
Julia Roberts, Actress, "I smoked dope twice," ..." It made me too sleepy..."
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, legendary Los Angeles Lakers Basketball star
Kary Mullis, Nobel Laurate, Biology. Is on NORML Board of directors.
Ken Kesey, Author of "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" (1975)
Kenneth Tynan, Playwright.
Kurt Cobain, musician.
Larry Hagman, actor, of "JR" fame.
Led Zeppelin, musicians.
Lenny Bruce, Comedian.
Lewis Carroll, Author
Lewis Wolpert, biologist.
Little Richard, musician.
Louis Armstrong, Jazz musician. The 'bust' in his own words.
Luke Perry, actor.
Louis Hebert, French Botanist
Mark Stepnoski. two-time Super Bowl champ, Dallas Cowboy.
Mick Jagger, musician
Mike Bloomberg. New York City Mayor.
Mike Tyson, Boxer.
Miles Davis, Jazz musician.
Milton Berle, Actor another one on the DEA list of smokers
Mo Mowlam, Minister recently in charge of UK drug policy.
Modigliani. Sculptor.
Montgomery Clift, actor, mentioned in his biography.
Neil Diamond, musician.
Neil Young, Musician.
Newt Gingrich Speaker of the US Senate.
Norman Mailer, Author.
Oasis, Noel Gallagher "smoking cannabis is as normal as having a cup of tea"
Ocean Colour Scene, "the hardest smoking band in music" Q Magazine. 02/02.
Oliver Stone, Film Director.
Oscar Wilde, Author. "Bosie and I have taken to hashish,"
Pablo Picasso, Artist.
Pancho Villa, Revolutionary Leader.
Peregrine Worthstone, former editor of the Sunday Telegraph.
Peter Fonda, actor. "I don't trust anybody who didn't inhale."
Peter Sellers, actor.
Peter Tosh, Poet.
Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Former Prime Minister of Canada.
Pink. Musician. Mentioned in Playboy interview (11/02).
Pink Floyd, Musicians.
P. J. O'Rouke. Author.
Pythagoras, Mathematician.
Queen Victoria.
Ram Dass, Philosopher.
Ray Charles, musician.
Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize Laureate physicist.
Richard Pryor, actor.
Robert Anton Wilson. Philosopher .
Robert Mitchum, Actor, was jailed in the 40s for possession of marijuana.
Rolling Stones, musicians.
Rosie Boycott, former Editor of the Daily Express and The Independent.
Ross Rebagliati, first ever snowboarding Gold Medallist, 1998 Winter Olympics.
Rudolf Nureyev, Ballet dancer. Also see entry for Margot Fonteyn.
Rudyard Kipling . Author.
Ryan Farrell, Australian Sprint Car champion.
Salvador Dali, Artist.
Samuel Beckett, Author.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Author.
Sidi-Hidi. Sacred religious figure of Morocco, believed to have brought cannabis to the Atlas.
Sinead O'Connor, musician.
Sir Paul McCartney, Musician.
Sir Mick Jagger, Musician. Of whom it was written; "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel".
Snoop Dogg, musician.
Steve Martin , Actor.
Stephen King. Author, "Tommy Knockers".
Steve Jobs, co-creator of the Apple computer.
Steven Soderbergh, Film director.
Stephen Sondheim. Broadway composer and lyricist.
Sting / Gordon Sumners, musician.
Ted Turner, of CNN fame. This is a claim made by Bill Maher that has not been denied
Terence McKenna.
Terry Pratchett. Author of the "Diskworld" books. A bit of a cheeky claim perhaps, in that he did not object to being given a "cake".
The Who, musicians.
Thelonious Monk, Jazz musician.
Timothy Leary
Tomas Enge, Formula 3000 World Champion.
Tommy Chong. Actor with Cheech Marin in "Up in Smoke " - "Cheech & Chong".
Tommy Lee, Musician.
Tony Booth, the father-in-law of Britain's Prime Minister. Smoked it in No 10.
UB40, Band.
Victor Hugo. Author 'Les Misérables'
Walter 'Stumpy' Brennan actor.
Walter Benjamin, Philosopher.
Wesley Snipes, actor. Has been seen in Cannabis Cafes.
Whitney Houston, musician.
William Butler Yeats. Famous Irish Poet and Occultist.
William S. Burroughs, Author.
William Shakespeare. Dramatist. More here.
Willie Nelson, musician.
Woody Harrelson, Actor and reformer.
Zoroaster, Persian prophet.
Eight UK Conservative Shadow Cabinet Ministers as well as some Liberal and Labour MPs.
Most popular Musicians since the turn of the 20th century. Even the boys from S Club 7!
You will find it's use mentioned in the Bible.
And now we are told even Stone age man may have used it. |
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| occrider |
| Pffft all those people are has-beens, good-for-nothings, or nobodies! |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Pffft all those people are has-beens, good-for-nothings, or nobodies! |
Firstly, not true. Secondly, thats irrelevant anyway. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Firstly, not true. Secondly, thats irrelevant anyway. |
Sorry, I forgot these:
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Sorry, I forgot these:
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Did u read the whole thread? Doesnt sound like it. Go and read what djslain was saying and ull find out why i posted it. |
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